funcouple1976tt ; rude SOB!  

Heels_N_Squeals 44F
67 posts
6/13/2018 12:51 pm
funcouple1976tt ; rude SOB!

Some loser writes me today. Asks me to answer his question and to be honest. Here's the question:

"Funcouple176tt: ale of 1-10...how much do u like to give head? 1= yuck to 10= U would make out and give head to a cute realtor in a condo for sale posing as a fake buyer there to view the place?? 2:16 PM"

So being honest, I answered truthfully with my opinions, the he retorts like a child. You are damned if you do; damned if you don't here on this shitty site with these idiot men!!! The story in pics tell the conversation. I'm so done with these shit-headed men here!!! Nothing but losers on this site 24/7.

Funcouple176tt








Wannacpl2play 43M
3 posts
6/13/2018 1:00 pm

these assholes mess it up for the good guys like me who are on here looking and get shut down because women don't give a damn about anyone by the way these assholes treat them here. gets me so mad!


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:36 am:
Agree!

5CwazyDaisy 49F  
66 posts
6/13/2018 1:22 pm

Great job calling him on his sh!t, something I also have to do all too often. Guess he hasn't heard about be careful what you ask for as you might not like the answer lol


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:38 am:
Exactly! I mean, he asked my honesty, I gave it to him. Simple. If he didn't like the answers I gave or wasn't what he wanted to hear, then it was his fault for opening the door in asking my honest opinions to begin with. Agree!

Xxxfunxxx91 29M
7 posts
6/13/2018 1:36 pm

I don’t understand talking to women like that. He needs to learn to take rejection like a man lol. Sorry for your experience.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 6:49 am:
Agree. Needs to learn rejection...but first he just needs to learn how to open profiles and learn how to read. Had he done so from the start in that sequence, then there wouldn't have a been a reason to contact me at all, thus, nothing to be rejected for when it came to live one to one chat via IM.

JAPeter1969 48M  
27 posts
6/13/2018 1:42 pm

I apologize for these types who give the rest of us men a bad name. As the father of a daughter I have to do this continuously it seems. As a bi guy I've come across some nuts on this site, gives me a new appreciation for what you ladies put up with. Way to go after him and show him up.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:38 am:
Thanks for the kind words and support!

s2ndegree 59M  
7889 posts
6/13/2018 2:00 pm

I would have thought the conversation would have ended after the
childish retort or k bye or okie dokie.

It's a shame that one exchange makes all men the same.
Unfortunately this private exchange lost it's merit right after you
said" It's fine.I'll expose this on site for all to see your behavior."
That's when you started speaking to the audience.
You bozo's?Plural?

Not everyone has the same reason that they chose this site and
it's unfortunate when it comes down to those who see this as a sex site and those who don't.I don't.I'm much more selective.

Using more than all the road!


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:35 am:
Well no, it shouldn't end after the retort of "okie dokie". Here's the thing, first of all we're all human beings here and adults. If someone writes to me, I do my best to reply back to them out of being kind toward another human who has written. This is basic common courtesy. How society ever got to the point of mentality to ignore others by default is boggling and rude. That's not how I was raised. I was raised to treat others with respect and to be respected in turn. That's just the thing on this site, you GIVE respect, yet you NEVER GET respect in turn for being nice in the first place. So stop sticking up for these bozos ( yes, plural to the 97% of them on this site ). This member is a gold premium member. He was perfectly able to read my profile, but he chose not to. Instead, he goes on to write to me with these misled thoughts because of his lack of reading. In turn, I'm nice to reply to him, I'm kind enough to answer his questions honestly, then he retorts childishly on me when he suddenly realizes that he's not getting sexual action from me because I seek friendship first. You think it was necessary for him to say " You should probably check out Match dot c o m" to me? No, of course not. That's childish and ignorant! Again, you stick up for his actions. All he had to say was sorry or admit that he didn't read profile or simply say that he appreciated my time and reply and make closure to move along with respect...something like that and I would have respected him and appreciated honesty and peace. But no, these super ego get in the way and nobody ever finds fault in one's self and can be man enough to admit it, so instead, it's the other person ( me ) who is suddenly the asshole. Why? Because I mind my business. Because some random stranger writes to me. Because I reply back, answer his goofy questions and be honest in doing so. If you don't see a problem here with any of what I just said, then you are part of the problem here, too.

MyBaffies 48M
2076 posts
6/13/2018 2:22 pm

Oh well, that's one less competition for the rest of us.

Baffies

My Blog: MyBaffies


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 10:39 am:
That's one way to look at it. Lol.

Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/13/2018 2:26 pm

I really don't see why you went off on a tirade on him. He's on the right site to be inviting women to give him a blowjob......if you didn't want to, you could have just said , "No", and be done with it.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:06 am:
I don't think you quite understand. Re-read the conversation again. He wrote to me, asking my honest opinion on some theoretical question regarding how I like blowjobs ( he didn't initially say it was for HIM ). In turn, I answered his question with honesty.

I got pissed because when I am kind enough to respond to others here, the respect isn't given back in turn. We all heard the term "give respect; get respect"....and that's what's lacking here. We women give respect, yet never get respect in turn. So, he asked for my honesty and opinions, he got his answers....simple! If he didn't like the answers I gave, he shouldn't have asked for my honesty or opinions in the first place. Correct? So instead of respecting my answers, he apparently disagreed with what I said and then his super ego got in the way, so he retorts with childish retaliation with a Match dot c o m comment...and so sparked the idiocy by him.

Oh sure, he is on the right site for sexual matters. However, why he personally writes me for those sexual matters is another situation. Does my profile say I want to meet random strangers and give them oral sex? No, it doesn't. This is not my fault here, it's his fault for not reading my damn profile. When will you men wake up and see this stuff?

But anyway, I did essentially say "no" to the blowjob thing when I went on in the conversation to say his question was theoretical. He, in turn, said it's not theoretical and that the cute realtor guy at the condo was him ( basically hinting to me that he wanted to meet for a bj ). You'll read that I didn't show any interest in his proposition and told him that it was fictional to mostly all women who exist here, as they almost always seek friendship and compatibility established prior to sexual matters with them. So yes, I essentially did say "no", I was done with answering his question that he so badly wanted me to answer. At that point, all that he then needed to do was form respectful closure by thanking me for my time and for answering his question honestly and we could then part ways on a good note. Did he do that? NO!!! Instead, he chose to be a smart ass because his super asshole ego was blown to bits and shoot off a childish and sarcastic message to me. What isn't being understood about this and the need that us women here demand respect??? Is it too much to ask to say "thanks for your time, appreciate your honesty in answering my questions" or "my apologies for not reading/overlooking your profile details and I expected more" and "take care/good luck/have a great day"?? I mean, come on....should this really lead to messages like "go to Match dot c o m"? "You can fuck yourself for all I'm concerned"? "Your elementary education probably doesn't know what it means"? "Fuck off"? etc... If you don't understand this, then you are a big part of what's wrong here when it comes to respect being a two-way street here.

Wonder167 51F  
123 posts
6/13/2018 2:28 pm

I'm just shaking my head.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:08 am:
Same here.

Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/13/2018 2:33 pm

Read just his lines..... he wasn't "Rude" until you started picking him apart.

You can't call him rude, in my opinion. He got understandably defensive around 30 minutes into your unpleasant conversation with him.

Reads as though you were the rude one this time. Maybe you were just having a bad day.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:21 am:
What???? Me rude to him? How? His entire point of writing to me was in HIM wanting to ask me a question that he had and to be honest in doing so. I answered the question AND I was honest. Simple.

Picking him apart? How so? He was hinting at that point that he ( a complete stranger ) wanted to me with me for random oral sex. Does my profile say I seek random hookups? NO, it does NOT! It says that I seek friendship FIRST and possibly fun times AFTER friendship develops. How you defend this bozo is beyond my comprehension!! I wasn't having a bad day, I'm just tired of the nonsense here. The idea is so simple. Read profile. Does it say I am looking for a quick hookup with randoms? No. Move on. Yet you sit here and defend the goof and make it look like I'm the crazy one here.

Yes, I can and do call him rude! 30 minute mark?? He initiated contact with me at 2:14 p.m. - he shot off his first sarcastic comment at 2:27 p.m.. This is 13 minutes, not even half of your 30 minute mark that you claim.

Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:25 am:
And by the way, why would he get defensive toward me at all? I mean, no mystery in reading a profile and seeing the incompatibility. So by your logic, it's acceptable to be ignorant, then blindly write to someone with these irrelevant ideas in what you propose that have nothing in common with what the person seeks that you're writing to? Give me a break!! His butt is hurt due to his own ignorance in the matter. It's just that simple!

ProfessorNaught 105M
923 posts
6/13/2018 6:32 pm

To what....
the fact that he's a jackass, or;
the fact that she took the effort to post it


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:30 am:
I see you're just another asshole here by this comment. You men are clueless! Might want to think for a second, if women are posting these sort of things against all of you bozos, then the idea might be to wise up, because look around you and honestly tell me how many real women you think still reside here, talk to men and actually follow through to meet them. ? I'd be highly surprised to find more than 5% of women here falling in to that bracket. And why is that so? Exactly because of the reasons for what you read regarding this specific blog. Get a clue, idiot!

Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/14/2018 11:45 am

aww... she removed the conversation... hahaha...


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:32 am:
No, don't be so quick to assume, goofball! I didn't remove the conversation at all. The site removed the conversation. I returned back here a few days later and to my surprise, my pics of this conversation were removed by the site. I re-added. We'll see if they stay up this time. Don't be an idiot your entire life. Every comment you make here makes you look foolish!

Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/17/2018 3:48 pm

Ha.. she brought it back....

So how about respecting him?! You want a friendship. That's what you said.... He is looking for a woman to have sex with. That is basically what he is saying.

Why could you not respect that?

Instead you got all uppity and accused him of looking for the physical , not the friendship...... that's pretty stupid considering the kind of site he , AND you, are on.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 7:26 am:
"Ha.. she brought it back...."

Again, I never took it down to begin with...the site itself did. Apparently it probably clashes with the TOS, but do I really give a damn if they boot me from their site for violating it? It's not like it'll be a major loss to me.

"So how about respecting him?! You want a friendship. That's what you said.... He is looking for a woman to have sex with. That is basically what he is saying.

Why could you not respect that?"

I respect everyone here and respect what everyone here is seeking. How do you figure I don't? I don't care what others seek. That's their business. Difference being is that when someone doesn't read profiles, then contacts me with some stupid question, then expects me to randomly meet a stranger for oral....then that becomes my business at that point. What don't you understand about this concept?

"Instead you got all uppity and accused him of looking for the physical , not the friendship...... that's pretty stupid considering the kind of site he , AND you, are on."

It isn't like I'm making false accusations against him. Read the conversation. He claims he was seeking friendship AND fun. If that's the case, then I would expect the conversation to be geared in trying to get to know me and not about physical attributes. Not only that, my profile says to be local and live within 30-40 minutes maximum from me....he lives over an hour from me. I love how you defend the idiot, the one who is gold here and refuses to read a profile, yet cannot see the obvious facts that I am making here. Then you ask me to respect someone who disrespects me. Get a clue!

I'm stupid? And what kind of site is this actually? It seems that you don't even understand what this site is designed for, yet you claim I'm stupid. Before getting into that, let me first say again that my profile says that I am looking for friendship and if that happens I hope some fun out of it ( sexually ). Now, about this site. The very name of this site implies that friendship is most definitely what this site can be used to find. In fact, people are on this site for a wide variety of reasons. It's NOT just for solely finding sex, so get that right out of your head. If that's your thought, then you don't even understand what this site is for and shouldn't be here.

This site can be used for physical or in-person aspects: Various forms of sexual reasons/fetishes/hookups , friendships, dating and socializing, etc... .
It can also be used for online-only aspects: Socializing ( chatting ), web camming, contests, blogging, online groups, magazine section, adult video section, reading erotic stories, blinging, etc... .

So if you think that this site is 100% ONLY for sex, then you're sorely mistaken and have misled thoughts directly from the start. If you don't understand this info, then the only stupid one here is yourself. Look around you here, majority of real women don't even have any intent to meet anyone in person, and there is no mystery why due to the way we're treated here and because of these misled thoughts that the only reason women exist here is to spread our legs. In fact, corporate section of this site, along with Wiki make no mention at all of anything regarding this site as actually being "sexual".

ProfessorNaught 105M
923 posts
6/17/2018 5:20 pm

Heels_N_Squeals > funcouple1976tt ; rude SOB! (6/13/2018 12:51 pm)
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Quoting Wonder167:
I'm just shaking my head.
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ProfessorNaught:
To what....
the fact that he's a jackass, or;
the fact that she took the effort to post it
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Quoting ProfessorNaught:
6/17/2018 11:30 am
I see you're just another asshole here by this comment. You men are clueless! Might want to think for a second, if women are posting these sort of things against all of you bozos, then the idea might be to wise up, because look around you and honestly tell me how many real women you think still reside here, talk to men and actually follow through to meet them. ? I'd be highly surprised to find more than 5% of women here falling in to that bracket. And why is that so? Exactly because of the reasons for what you read regarding this specific blog. Get a clue, idiot!

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First, My comment (quote) wasn't on anything you said.
Second, I did not respond (to that quote) and then delete the comment from the post.
(what are you hiding? - Seems others here are echoing the same actions by you on their post)
Third, if you really want to discuss "assholes and idiots", look no further than your own content and stop blaming others for the stupid shit you do.....

Now on to commenting on your original post (since you seem to force a confrontation)

> I did not carry on the text message conversation for forty-five (45) minutes
>> It was not me who took seven (7) screenshots of the conversation just so you could post them in a blog.
>>> And, it was not me who baited the guy into carrying on that conversation for forty-five (45) minutes.

So lets talk about "assholes and idiots" who manipulate men and then turn an attitude and attack them for no reason at all - or, a reason the manipulator fabricates.

In fact, I did mention he was a jackass - And while I did acknowledge you went through considerable effort in your attempt to make yourself look like a victim just so you could attack a man you openly and willingly encouraged to engage in the conversation you posted (as if you were trolling for a guy to attack - he was your prey and you stalked him like some schoolgirl trying to draw attention to herself )

Respect is earned. You want it, give it first!

Otherwise, you're like the other women who play the same games on sites like this. I'd be surprised if you knew anything about the women that troll this place looking for hookups, NSA and the other bullshit they come up with. The site never had a respectful foundation from the day it started and really wasn't designed to be an amiable forum. It attracted idiots like you and about the lowest life of men thinking they could get laid because some marketing pitch said so. That is, if getting laid was the agenda of all men as you believe and exude in your character, personality and written word. So why are you here in the first place?

The only one "clueless" here is you! And when those attentive enough to call you out on it speaks up, you attack them and then attempt to conceal your actions by deleting the comments you post. Well, guess what, I reproduced the conversation (as you did) just so I could throw it back in your face. And, I even kept the one screenshot that contains it all not to post it in an attempt to smear you (you do that all to well on your own) but to prove a point and document who the real idiot and asshole really is...

If you want to come after me, you better go back to school. You're a 45 year old "single" woman with an unpleasant attitude and knack for manipulating men to satisfy and effect some personal revenge. Now take that to the bank and ask yourself, "why am I still single"! If you were to ask me the same - I'd say because of women like you and my ability to see right through your disguise.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 8:31 am:
Omg where do I start with this one?!?

"First, My comment (quote) wasn't on anything you said."
Are you saying that your comment of "the fact that she took the effort to post it" wasn't intended by you to sarcastically put me down or make me look foolish for posting this blog here?

"Second, I did not respond (to that quote) and then delete the comment from the post.
(what are you hiding? - Seems others here are echoing the same actions by you on their post)"
And as I have also echoed to another user, I posted this blog ( with the screen shot pics ). I was away from the site for a few days and upon my next sign-on and to my surprise, the site management removed my screen shot pics from the blog....( apparently a TOS thing ). As you can see, I re-added the pics. I'm not hiding anything and I didn't remove the pics. Only thing that's evident is that you're quick to assume that I had. Wrong! Why would I post a blog here, then take down the evidence? Makes no sense. So yeah, you're an asshole...you accuse me of something and don't even understand the facts.

"Now on to commenting on your original post (since you seem to force a confrontation)"
I forced a confrontation with this guy? How? For sitting at my desk signed on to the IM system, minding my business while an incoming IM comes in from him. This is me forcing a confrontation?? He asks me to answer a question and be honest, I did...again, this is a confrontation I brought on to him?? He failed to read my profile at all...and once again, this is somehow my fault for initiating a confrontation with him??

"> I did not carry on the text message conversation for forty-five (45) minutes"
Correct, I conversed for that period of time. What's not wrong or not understood of the will of general socializing with someone or to acknowledge others when they write to us?

">> It was not me who took seven (7) screenshots of the conversation just so you could post them in a blog."
You make it sound as if the only reason I took on his IM was in an effort to gather information so that I could post it here for malicious reasons. I took screen shots to provide evidence and show the world how much of an asshole this member is to me and as a red flag to anyone that may be interested in this member. Most times, what men write on their profiles do not reflect their real attitudes...that's why this blog does.

">>> And, it was not me who baited the guy into carrying on that conversation for forty-five (45) minutes."
I baited him? How? Again, I sit here minding my own business, an incoming IM comes in. He asked me to answer a question he had and to be honest with my answers...I did. This is ME baiting HIM??? So then once his question was answered, he could have merely told me "thanks for being honest ( per his request ), thanks for my time..." or something along those lines as a respectful form of closure so that we could both part ways. Did he do that? No! Instead, his super ego was smashed out of rejection of me meeting a complete stranger for oral sex, so he goes on to spout off some sarcastic comment of me going to the Match site. This was unnecessary and from this point forward is where the disrespect came in from his part and where I was getting pissed. What's not understood about this? Again, how is his initiation considered me baiting him? Unreal how you losers defend the guilty!

"you went through considerable effort in your attempt to make yourself look like a victim just so you could attack a man you openly and willingly encouraged to engage in the conversation you posted (as if you were trolling for a guy to attack - he was your prey and you stalked him like some schoolgirl trying to draw attention to herself )"
WRONG! He is a gold member, correct? YES! He ignored to read my profile prior to IM'ing me, correct? YES! Therefore, he brought this drama on by his own will. How am I attacking someone who initially writes me to ask a question? I answered him. Simple. End of story! What followed from there was his own idiocy. Period!

"Respect is earned. You want it, give it first!"
I gave him respect from the start by being kind enough to open his incoming IM and reply to him in a courteous and balanced manner, answering his questions respectfully, honestly and yet firmly in accordance with what I'm here for seeking. How did I NOT give respect first? Where in the conversation does it show where disrespect comes in? It comes in when HE advised me to go to the Match site. This is where my respect for him was lost. So don't sit here and make the guilty out to magically be innocent.

"Otherwise, you're like the other women who play the same games on sites like this. I'd be surprised if you knew anything about the women that troll this place looking for hookups, NSA and the other bullshit they come up with."
You're an idiot! So now all of the sudden I'm a troll? Why? Because I sit at my damn desk minding my own business, I take an incoming IM that was sent to me and answer someone's question? This makes me a troll or someone who is playing games??? Get the story straight, goofball...only person who is playing games is the idiot who pays for a gold membership, yet doesn't utilize it in actually reading profiles prior to writing others here, then has misled ideas of getting something that never exists in the first place ( per my profile criteria ). This is HIM playing games, not me. You're an idiot if you cannot see how black and white this concept is.

"That is, if getting laid was the agenda of all men as you believe and exude in your character, personality and written word. So why are you here in the first place?"
In his words he is here seeking "friendship and fun". Take note, he's also in excess of an hour from me ( which contradicts my profile criteria ). What simple concept isn't being understood here by you? If you live in excess of an hour, then why contact someone who seeks someone local and not exceeding a 30-40 minute distance ( per profile )? By that fact alone, there was no need to contact me. Nevertheless, putting distance to the side for a moment, if he sought friendship, then I'd expect friendship as being the foundation of his chat in order for potential physical sex acts to occur....in that order. Was it in that order? NO! You don't just look for a random BJ with a complete stranger and then expect to establish a friendship after the fact. Again, you're an idiot if you cannot understand the simple sequence of friendship, then play. It's not play and then "well, maybe a friendship will come from it". That's not reality and he could obviously care less whether friendship was there or not....which is why it's critical to form a friendship FIRST! Duh!

"The only one "clueless" here is you! And when those attentive enough to call you out on it speaks up, you attack them and then attempt to conceal your actions by deleting the comments you post."
Third time writing this on this blog, second time to you alone....I did NOT conceal my actions. The site removed my pics initially. You assume before knowing facts. I've attacked nobody. Again, give respect, get respect. When someone lashes out at me with sarcasm due to their ignorance or getting their butt hurt with rejection ( all of which should come to no surprise anyway from my profile ), then they are the idiots, not me. Get a clue, dummy!

"If you want to come after me, you better go back to school. You're a 45 year old "single" woman with an unpleasant attitude and knack for manipulating men to satisfy and effect some personal revenge. Now take that to the bank and ask yourself, "why am I still single"! If you were to ask me the same - I'd say because of women like you and my ability to see right through your disguise."
Me come after you? But wait, I didn't ask your opinions or ask you to post to this blog. You did that on your own terms and came after ME. What are you talking about that I came after you?
I'm 45 and single...your point being? What I gather is that you're astonishingly a 105 year single old male. Hahaaha Too funny! Yet you're calling me the clueless idiot here? Laughable! Me, unpleasant attitude? How so? Again, re-read the start of the conversation up to the point where he makes mention of the Match comment. How am I unpleasant? Firm? YES! Honest? YES! Unpleasant? NO! Why am I still single? It's by choice, dumb-dumb. The same reason you give me is the same reason I choose to be single....because society is a real mess, there are next to no manners anymore, respect is nearly non-existent, the mentality is always sex without a care for someone as a human being coming first ( if at all ), there's no level of trust or honesty, etc... . There is no mystery why many of today's women choose to be single. By the fact that you're here judging my by my choice in marital status goes to show your immature level of mentality on top of all else discussed above.

ST308 49M  
27 posts
6/18/2018 7:32 am

Very well handled, and very entertaining to read ;^) I'm sure you will find all types on this site, but I will say taking a few minutes to read your profile would clue anyone in to exactly what you are looking for, which is why that guy's approach miserably failed.

Not all of us on this site are as clueless ;^)


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 8:42 am:
Thank you very much. Agreed! The concept here cannot be any more easier to understand. Read profile first and if there is a reasonable level of compatibility through what's read on one's profile, contact them and take it from there. The idea here isn't be a paying gold member, ignore profiles, then just blindly write to others, have a misled approach due to their ignorance, but then expect a positive outcome to magically appear. Nothing positive derives from ignorance.

I liked your comment and agree. There are still some of us here that are level-headed.

Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/18/2018 12:04 pm

Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/18/2018 8:42 am:
....Read profile first and if there is a reasonable level of compatibility through what's read on one's profile, contact them and take it from there.


He was not rude. He took a chance. That is not being rude. You, however, instead of saying , "No" and ending the conversation, you rode this out to a ridiculous ending.... you were rude. Not him.


PornDokter 46M
8 posts
6/18/2018 12:28 pm

Heathen_G - i'm agreeing with heels on this one. like she says..the concept isn't hard to understand on this site..if someone seeks apples on their profile then why write to them if you are seeking oranges? otherwise you are wasting your time and their time when you both can be finding actual matches. this is really simple to understand..why do you think we have profiles in the first place and fill them out if nobody is going to read them or go by what they say? this doesn't mean heels was rude to him man. it means that he's writing to her with nonsense. what chance is being taken if her profile clearly says she looks for someone 30-40 m or closer but he's over an hour? what chance is taken if her profile says she wants friendship first but he's writing to her and asking for a meet up instantly for a bj? she rode it out after saying no to him cause she wants respect and peace in the end and not arguing. nah i'm agreeing with heels all the way here man. you are dead wrong in how you think.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/18/2018 8:16 pm

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - i'm agreeing with heels on this one. like she says..the concept isn't hard to understand on this site..if someone seeks apples on their profile then why write to them if you are seeking oranges? otherwise you are wasting your time and their time when you both can be finding actual matches. this is really simple to understand..why do you think we have profiles in the first place and fill them out if nobody is going to read them or go by what they say? this doesn't mean heels was rude to him man. it means that he's writing to her with nonsense. what chance is being taken if her profile clearly says she looks for someone 30-40 m or closer but he's over an hour? what chance is taken if her profile says she wants friendship first but he's writing to her and asking for a meet up instantly for a bj? she rode it out after saying no to him cause she wants respect and peace in the end and not arguing. nah i'm agreeing with heels all the way here man. you are dead wrong in how you think.
From 2:18 and on , she was quite rude. At 2:18, she should have disconnected the nonsense.

Between 2:14 to 2:18, she knew he didn't read her profile, yet she goes on to berate him, call him a loser , childish... He even suggest a better site for what she seeks [@2:27]... she says he's being childish.... [@2:29] he even said, "K bye".... but she continued. She knew she was making him riled up. That's what she wanted.

He's at fault for not reading her profile.... however she's rude in her behavior of continuing to pick him apart.

I'm right. She could have closed that communication down as soon as he mentioned blowjobs.


PornDokter 46M
8 posts
6/19/2018 7:24 am

Heathen_G - Wrong man! At 2:18 she answered his question honestly like he asked her to do. Nothing rude about that when he asked her to be honest about it. Since that was his reason for writing her then it should have been him that disconnected the convo, not her because she didn't know what he wanted or if he wanted to ask more or just to talk in regular chat.

Wrong again man! She took his IM out of respect to acknowledge him as a person. So between 2:14 and 2:18 the convo centers around his IM to her saying he had a question and asking her to answer it it truthfully. She did exactly that! At that point profile info is irrelevant here because don't you see she was just being kind to take his IM and to respond to her. You don't have to be a profile match just to simply talk to other people. It started to get into profile related stuff when he began digging to meet her for a bj. I agree with her because at that point the convo shifts from someone just wanting general chat or has a question to something very personal dealing with her search. All she wanted to do was get him to understand things so he was on the same page as her. He didn't want to so he made a stupid remark to go to a different site. Heels answered that perfectly when she replied to you on 6/18/2018 10:26 am when she said this to you...

I'm stupid? And what kind of site is this actually? It seems that you don't even understand what this site is designed for, yet you claim I'm stupid. Before getting into that, let me first say again that my profile says that I am looking for friendship and if that happens I hope some fun out of it ( sexually ). Now, about this site. The very name of this site implies that friendship is most definitely what this site can be used to find. In fact, people are on this site for a wide variety of reasons. It's NOT just for solely finding sex, so get that right out of your head. If that's your thought, then you don't even understand what this site is for and shouldn't be here.

This site can be used for physical or in-person aspects: Various forms of sexual reasons/fetishes/hookups , friendships, dating and socializing, etc... .
It can also be used for online-only aspects: Socializing ( chatting ), web camming, contests, blogging, online groups, magazine section, adult video section, reading erotic stories, blinging, etc... .

So if you think that this site is 100% ONLY for sex, then you're sorely mistaken and have misled thoughts directly from the start. If you don't understand this info, then the only stupid one here is yourself. Look around you here, majority of real women don't even have any intent to meet anyone in person, and there is no mystery why due to the way we're treated here and because of these misled thoughts that the only reason women exist here is to spread our legs. In fact, corporate section of this site, along with Wiki make no mention at all of anything regarding this site as actually being "sexual".


PornDokter 46M
8 posts
6/19/2018 7:46 am

Heathen_G - Ok yeah, at his 2:29 K bye comment he does say that. Still I side with Heels here. Although he was saying bye he wasnt really genuine. He just had his ass hurt by rejection and by knowing damn well he didn't read profile and was after something that wasn't there. Instead of being a man and thanking her, apologizing to her or leaving convo on a more meaningful manner than a childish and vague K bye he didn't and she expected a better closure. I can't blame her. Looking at the situation from any woman's view here..they write to these guys and then get dumped on in the end like they are just disposable. The guys see nothing wrong with wasting women's time here but when it's then the guy's time that's being wasted they just want to jet off a convo real quick with some vague shit and this leaves the woman feeling pissed and used. Heels said it perfectly in her 2:28 comment about why almost no ladies exist here and why none want to talk to men. I know because as nice as a guy as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. Women don't wanna deal with this shit no more and it's guys like this that are the reason. So yea man I totally see her point for posting this. Shows how all the assholes here ruined the scene for good guys like me.

Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. At 2:22 he askes her why she's on here. If he read the profile before contacting her then he should already know as a gold member why she's on here. She wasn't rude to him until the point where he began digging and gearing the convo on physical stuff and to meet her for a random bj. Like she said women don't care about a guy's sexual needs. Ladies want a foundation first and friendship. Sexual things are inevitable once that happens. You guys just don't get it!
And you're right she could have closed down convo once he said bj, but she did turn him down on it and explained that most women don't go about it that way and she was looking for friendship first. He just had his ass hurt then and he shot off sarcasm to her with a Match comment. Unacceptable! Like I said you guys just don't get it! Heels I agree with you all the way.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/20/2018 3:38 am

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - Ok yeah, at his 2:29 K bye comment he does say that. Still I side with Heels here. Although he was saying bye he wasnt really genuine. He just had his ass hurt by rejection and by knowing damn well he didn't read profile and was after something that wasn't there. Instead of being a man and thanking her, apologizing to her or leaving convo on a more meaningful manner than a childish and vague K bye he didn't and she expected a better closure. I can't blame her. Looking at the situation from any woman's view here..they write to these guys and then get dumped on in the end like they are just disposable. The guys see nothing wrong with wasting women's time here but when it's then the guy's time that's being wasted they just want to jet off a convo real quick with some vague shit and this leaves the woman feeling pissed and used. Heels said it perfectly in her 2:28 comment about why almost no ladies exist here and why none want to talk to men. I know because as nice as a guy as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. Women don't wanna deal with this shit no more and it's guys like this that are the reason. So yea man I totally see her point for posting this. Shows how all the assholes here ruined the scene for good guys like me.

    Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. At 2:22 he askes her why she's on here. If he read the profile before contacting her then he should already know as a gold member why she's on here. She wasn't rude to him until the point where he began digging and gearing the convo on physical stuff and to meet her for a random bj. Like she said women don't care about a guy's sexual needs. Ladies want a foundation first and friendship. Sexual things are inevitable once that happens. You guys just don't get it!
    And you're right she could have closed down convo once he said bj, but she did turn him down on it and explained that most women don't go about it that way and she was looking for friendship first. He just had his ass hurt then and he shot off sarcasm to her with a Match comment. Unacceptable! Like I said you guys just don't get it! Heels I agree with you all the way.
Ok yeah, at his 2:29 K bye comment he does say that. ... That's right, he did, he was done.. Did she disconnect? No.

Although he was saying bye he wasnt really genuine. ...So what?! Maybe he was , maybe he wasn't.... He was done.

He just had his ass hurt by rejection and by knowing damn well he didn't read profile and was after something that wasn't there. ...He took a chance. He didn't get belligerent , until she became rude. She didn't need to take it that far... It solves nothing.

Instead of being a man and thanking her ... No reason to thank her. She was belligerent and argumentative. You don't thank a brat.

, apologizing to her.... After her rudeness? No way. He contacted her. She could immediately detect he did not read her profile, so instead of disconnecting, she made a mountain of drama out of it.

or leaving convo on a more meaningful manner . ..HA! "Meaningful manner"?!... Neither of these two people were ever going to attain something meaningful out of that mess.

than a childish and vague K bye .... You don't know it's "Childish".. he was done, he conceded. Was there a disconnect then? ...No. She furthered the drama. That is rude.

he didn't and she expected a better closure. ... Did she? Or did she just feel like fighting with the guy who didn't read her profile. He also suggested a vanilla site to find friends. That pissed her off more. Really, she's kind of foolish to get this hostile on a sex site where men are inviting women for sex, when he thinks he is attracted to a woman. He is on the appropriate site for that.

I can't blame her. ... No... You just won't... however, I can, because what she said, and when she said , is clear.

Looking at the situation from any woman's view here..they write to these guys and then get dumped on in the end like they are just disposable. ... He wrote her... [She said so, very first sentence, "Some loser wrote to me today.." . And she publicly calling him a loser, was rude of her, also.

The guys see nothing wrong with wasting women's time here ... She could have disconnected, and she should have , at 2:16... 2 minutes wasted.... She didn't need to further the conversation, wasting more time, but she did.

but when it's then the guy's time that's being wasted they just want to jet off a convo real quick with some vague shit ... "Vague shit"? You mean when he said, "K bye", @2:29? That's not vague. If he was here, I'd tell him, after "K bye" he should have disconnected, but instead , for some unknown reason, he read through her belligerence.

and this leaves the woman feeling pissed and used. ... Oh too bad. Her fault.

Heels said it perfectly in her 2:28 comment about why almost no ladies exist here and why none want to talk to men. .... There are women on this site, they do talk to men, and they do meet with men .

I know because as nice as a guy .... "As a nice guy".... so basically you have no game, your approach is weak and apologetic, and you want to first try to be friends with a woman you want to bed. That doesn't work.

as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. .... Because you're " a nice guy"...... for some reason you were taught to first be nice to women you want to have sex with, was a good idea . Who ever taught you that , was wrong.

The female needs to feel something visceral about the male writing her/approaching her.... if he's seeming like her gay best friend, of course he's not going to get a reply.

Women don't wanna deal with this shit no more ... It's not bullshit if a woman is aroused. Heels was not aroused. She was upset, she became rude... and furthered a mess that should have ended at 2:16 by her own disconnect.

and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site.

So yea man I totally see her point for posting this. ... No, you're looking at it from a "Submissive male" point of view, completely skipping over the facts of the situation, and in the process taking her side because she's upset, when it's all completely her fault for dragging it out. But you're not going to tell her that.

Shows how all the assholes here ruined the scene for good guys like me. .... He wasn't an asshole. He is just more aggressive, getting to the point of why he contacted the woman [Heels], and you find competing with these aggressive men very difficult, because your approach is a weak, "Let's be friends". ....I repeat.. .he wasn't an asshole, he didn't get rude until she furthered this along, getting belligerent and picking him apart.

Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ....Yes. Agreed.

At 2:22 he askes her why she's on here. If he read the profile before contacting her then he should already know as a gold member why she's on here. ... Agreed.

She wasn't rude to him until the point where he began digging and gearing the convo on physical stuff and to meet her for a random bj. ...Then she should have disconnected. Once again, "Appropriate site". .... No kidding he was going "Physical". That should be expected from men seeking women. Even on vanilla sites, aggressive men are going to get to the point of why he contacted the woman , whom he is physically attracted. That's natural.

Like she said women don't care about a guy's sexual needs. ... Women do care about his sexual needs when the woman is attracted to the guy, because the "Sexual need" coincides with her own.

Ladies want a foundation first and friendship. ... No. She will take "Friendship foundation" with men she has no sexual arousal , no visceral feeling for, if he shows promise to be a good token gay friend. ........But if he's hot, she's all over him. Friendship, if it happens at all, can happen later.

That's your problem... you want "Friendship with women first. That doesn't work. When you find yourself sexually attracted to a woman, go ahead and be aggressive , make sure she has no doubt about why you're trying to get with her. Doing this, is okay.

Sexual things are inevitable once that happens. .....Ha.. "Friendship"? No. You get to be the guy she runs to , to complain about the hot guy who hurt her feelings. She'll talk and talk about him... you'll do the "Nice guy -listen".... and she'll feel better.. and leave to contact the hot guy who will bang her into walking funny. Not you.

You guys just don't get it! ... No , you "Nice guys" can't see your own flaw, or probably just don't have it in you to be anything else.

And you're right she could have closed down convo once he said bj, .... Yes.. she should have.

but she did turn him down on it .... Not really... she went on to say she loves giving oral sex and it's a big part of intimacy to her..[@2:19]. That is called "Baiting".

and explained that most women don't go about it that way ... That's wrong.. "She" doesn't go about it that way. She's also on a well known hookup site for sex and swinging , looking for friendship first. That's funny.

and she was looking for friendship first. ... Yes, and that's funny. He suggested she should try the vanilla site [@2:27].. and she says, here comes the childish retorts. Rude of her.

He just had his ass hurt then .. No.. his comment [@2:27] about the vanilla site was practical... She was too upset to notice. He even said "K bye" [@2:29].

and he shot off sarcasm to her with a Match comment. .... that wasn't sarcasm. It was a reasonable comment to what she's looking for.

Unacceptable! ...The comment of the vanilla site was totally acceptable.

Like I said you guys just don't get it! .... We get it fine.. you want to be the prince who saves the damsel in distress.... only the prince doesn't give off a sexual vibe. That's your problem.

Heels I agree with you all the way. .... That's what I mean... you want to desperately come to the woman's defense , even though she's wrong.


PornDokter 46M
8 posts
6/20/2018 8:01 am

Heathen_G - Here are some of the things you just quoted and agreed upon.

Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ...."Yes. Agreed."

and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... "No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site."

You are making a huge mountain out of a mole hill. The answer is directly in what you agree on. Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!!
Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? This is so simple to comprehend. You go on this enormous debate here but the key to it all is in what you admit him NOT doing..which was reading her profile before he contacted her. This is his damn fault not hers. Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person and chat or to answer someone's question without the modern day idiotic standards of 'ignore by default'. If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question.

You are as clueless as the guy in the IM is. You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. You do realize that you are in fantasy land? I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". It is NOT! She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. Not true at all!! In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. There's a difference between 'adult oriented' and 'sexually oriented'. Majority of men cannot differentiate the difference between the two and so this site is trash because of that fact. When will you dudes wake up and understand simple and basic shit here? The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. Seriously, does anyone actually ever read the fucking 'Corporate', 'About' or 'Who we are' pages on sites before they join. Seems most people are on this site and don't even understand all the various things it offers. You are so lost man!


Rochblue 41F
2 posts
6/20/2018 8:44 am

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - Here are some of the things you just quoted and agreed upon.

    Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ...."Yes. Agreed."

    and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... "No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site."

    You are making a huge mountain out of a mole hill. The answer is directly in what you agree on. Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!!
    Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? This is so simple to comprehend. You go on this enormous debate here but the key to it all is in what you admit him NOT doing..which was reading her profile before he contacted her. This is his damn fault not hers. Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person and chat or to answer someone's question without the modern day idiotic standards of 'ignore by default'. If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question.

    You are as clueless as the guy in the IM is. You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. You do realize that you are in fantasy land? I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". It is NOT! She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. Not true at all!! In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. There's a difference between 'adult oriented' and 'sexually oriented'. Majority of men cannot differentiate the difference between the two and so this site is trash because of that fact. When will you dudes wake up and understand simple and basic shit here? The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. Seriously, does anyone actually ever read the fucking 'Corporate', 'About' or 'Who we are' pages on sites before they join. Seems most people are on this site and don't even understand all the various things it offers. You are so lost man!
You are exactly right. He didn't read a profile but still gets in touch with her for sex. Very easy to see that he is at fault. Right again....Nothing wrong with taking an im to talk to people. Only reason females don't reply is because we get wrapped up in stupidity when we do because exactly the reason that nobody reads a profile first. Heathen seems to be a troll by providing a massive amount of bogus info and leaving out key reasons.

Between you and him I am seeing different approaches.
Heathen is the douchebag guy who wants a bang, goes bye and leaves nothing behind but a dim memory that most of us women choose to not remember or consider it a mistake. Right....nearly none of us women look for that here at all! We want positive personality, intelligence, meaning, comfort, trust, loyal acceptance, decency and someone who has values and is goal-driven (or at least who works). Sex is one of the least things we really expect here.
Porndokter is light years in the race for having a firm grasp on understanding the meaning of the site and the feminine human elements involved. To be friends doesn't mean that he's the gay friend we run to for supportor to unload our problems on. It means he's genuine, that he shows a real care for me as a person and his will to know me and accept me for who I am. This is a huge part of the puzzle that lacks here these days. Guaranteed, you develop friendship first and like he said, the sexual things are inevitable. I miss the several really good friends I had like that. Nobody wants a user.....we have sex toys that don't come with an emotional rollercoaster ride or treat us like dirt if we need to get off.

Very well said PD!


Wannacpl2play 43M
3 posts
6/20/2018 11:56 am

Amen to those comments 5CwazyDaisy, Xxxfunxxx91, JAPeter1969, ST308 and most of all to PornDokter, Rochblue and Notelllover for their valuable input.

As for the other assholes s2ndegree, Heathen_G and ProfessorNaught, everyone is right about you, you really are clueless losers here who don't understand simple stuff and who are trashing the scene for those who actually look for something real. Congrats, you've succeeded in running the scene nose first in the ground.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/20/2018 4:28 pm

    Quoting PornDokter:
    Heathen_G - Here are some of the things you just quoted and agreed upon.

    Anyway true he's at fault for not reading her profile. ...."Yes. Agreed."

    and it's guys like this that are the reason. .... "No.. he did alright. His mistake was not reading her profile. His approach was appropriate for a sex site."

    You are making a huge mountain out of a mole hill. The answer is directly in what you agree on. Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!!
    Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? This is so simple to comprehend. You go on this enormous debate here but the key to it all is in what you admit him NOT doing..which was reading her profile before he contacted her. This is his damn fault not hers. Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person and chat or to answer someone's question without the modern day idiotic standards of 'ignore by default'. If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question.

    You are as clueless as the guy in the IM is. You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. You do realize that you are in fantasy land? I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". It is NOT! She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. Not true at all!! In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. There's a difference between 'adult oriented' and 'sexually oriented'. Majority of men cannot differentiate the difference between the two and so this site is trash because of that fact. When will you dudes wake up and understand simple and basic shit here? The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. Seriously, does anyone actually ever read the fucking 'Corporate', 'About' or 'Who we are' pages on sites before they join. Seems most people are on this site and don't even understand all the various things it offers. You are so lost man!
Did he read her profile? Yes or no? NO!!!!!!! He did NOT!!! .... Calm down... this is already agreed . He did not. ........We think it, ......Heels [she] thinks it.... But the fact is she did not end the conversation back at 2:16, when it should have ended by her own action. ..............also... I say "Think it"... because he never confirmed or denied anything about reading her profile.

Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. ... But he did, and he had his reason [we'll never know] .... But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..................she did not end it.

None. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Understand??? ... But he did. Do you understand?..... This entire mountainous conversation has been about : Why didn't she end the conversation immediately upon learning he -supposedly- did not read her profile? ...She can't call him rude , for taking a chance. However, HEELS was rude to him, blatantly.

Like I said before,,people don't need to be profile matches to be a kind person ... There was nothing "Unkind" about the beginning of their conversation. ....But once she began reading he wants something she does not.... she should have ended the conversation [back at 2:16]. So who was rude... Him? No. Her?... Yes.

If someone writes and says "hi" or says "I have a question" then there doesn't have to be a profile match to socialize or be nice enough to open an IM like an adult and chat/answer a question. ....True.. and at [2:14] he did exactly that... he asked if he could ask a question. She became aware he had a question. At 2:16 she learns the question was about blowjobs....she laughs. At 2:19, she baits him , telling him she loves giving oral....he then invites her. She cannot call him "Rude" for this.

You make all quotes of the whole Match comment and how that's vanilla and this site isn't. ... That is true. In this site society, this site is not considered "Vanilla".

I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. ... No need to. However, this site offers the chance to find sex.... and he is looking for sex. Once she found that out.. she should have disconnected, instead baiting further conversation.

The reason this site doesn't work for most people here is because very few can look past the fact of sex ONLY. ... Nobody said anything about "Sex only". ..... At 2:23 she said she is basically looking for a friend... and fun....at 2:23 he said he is cool with that, and looking for a friend and fun.

In the minds of men they think the site is purely a "sex site". ... No. But in the minds of men and women... clearly this site is about sex.

She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. .... Didn't need to address them. The point is, this is a sex site, and sex is clearly advertised.

You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. ... Not true. But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob. ... She has the option of disconnecting at that point.

In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. ... That's fine, as long as women respect that men have come to the appropriate place to seek sex.

The Match site is for those singles who actually specifically want online dating and relationships. ... No..[no such thing as online dating and online relationships]... they want offline relationships. They go to Match to "Find" someone who wants that. If the "Dating"[aka sexual chemistry] is there, then it may [and more likely] go into a commitment. Far more likely, than from finding someone on this site willing to seek commitment.

However, you need to squabble about that with the guy she was chatting with... He was right, though, going to Match would have been a far wiser move for her, if sex is repulsing......But, men on Match will eventually mention having sex.[just not immediately]. Or he could have just mentioned "Friendfinder".


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/20/2018 5:15 pm

    Quoting Rochblue:
    You are exactly right. He didn't read a profile but still gets in touch with her for sex. Very easy to see that he is at fault. Right again....Nothing wrong with taking an im to talk to people. Only reason females don't reply is because we get wrapped up in stupidity when we do because exactly the reason that nobody reads a profile first. Heathen seems to be a troll by providing a massive amount of bogus info and leaving out key reasons.

    Between you and him I am seeing different approaches.
    Heathen is the douchebag guy who wants a bang, goes bye and leaves nothing behind but a dim memory that most of us women choose to not remember or consider it a mistake. Right....nearly none of us women look for that here at all! We want positive personality, intelligence, meaning, comfort, trust, loyal acceptance, decency and someone who has values and is goal-driven (or at least who works). Sex is one of the least things we really expect here.
    Porndokter is light years in the race for having a firm grasp on understanding the meaning of the site and the feminine human elements involved. To be friends doesn't mean that he's the gay friend we run to for supportor to unload our problems on. It means he's genuine, that he shows a real care for me as a person and his will to know me and accept me for who I am. This is a huge part of the puzzle that lacks here these days. Guaranteed, you develop friendship first and like he said, the sexual things are inevitable. I miss the several really good friends I had like that. Nobody wants a user.....we have sex toys that don't come with an emotional rollercoaster ride or treat us like dirt if we need to get off.

    Very well said PD!
He didn't read a profile.... Well we all really "Think" he didn't read her profile. That he did not, has never actually been established .

but still gets in touch with her for sex. ... Yes. He takes a chance. History is full of men who took chances, and some women, too.

Very easy to see that he is at fault. ....He didn't deserve her belligerence. She could have terminated the conversation at 2:16.

Right again....Nothing wrong with taking an im to talk to people. ... And that is what he was doing. Agreed.

Only reason females don't reply is because we get wrapped up in stupidity ... Not the only reason... sometime women don't like the man's profile or just his picture... Did Heels look at his profile?

when we do [get wrapped up in stupidity] because exactly the reason that nobody reads a profile first. .... So disconnect the IM conversation when you first notice the conversation going the wrong way.

Heathen seems to be a troll ... I am not a troll. I'm defending the guy because I don't see that he is deserving of a public labeling of being rude. When clearly she was rude.

Heathen is the douchebag ... See now you are being rude. This is a civil debate.I'm defending the guy.

We want positive personality, intelligence, meaning, comfort, trust, loyal acceptance, decency and someone who has values and is goal-driven (or at least who works). ... Good on you, but this is the most least likely site to find that person. Heels discussion is a clear example of that. ..but he is on the appropriate site for what he looks for.

Sex is one of the least things we really expect here..... LOL.. seriously?

Porndokter is light years in the race for having a firm grasp on understanding the meaning of the site and the feminine human elements involved. .... However, even by his own admission.. he gets turned down. [Porndorker said: I know because as a guy as I am I have written to plenty of ladies and get almost no replies back. ]

To be friends doesn't mean that he's the gay friend we run to for supportor to unload our problems on. ... Didn't say he was gay.. said he is the "Token" gay friend. He is the male you seek , if you don't have actual gay male friends. These nice straight men end up in the woman's friendzone. She seeks him out when she is bothered by the hot guy whom she wants to have sex with.... not the "Nice guy".


It means he's genuine, that he shows a real care for me as a person and his will to know me and accept me for who I am. .... True. However , he , being a straight male, would still appreciate sex, or a blowjob from you , to show your appreciation, now and then. Instead you take advantage of those men.

Guaranteed, you develop friendship first and like he said, ... No. First there needs to be sexual chemistry. .... The, "Let's be friends first".... is how a woman tells a man , "I have no sexual interest for you".....................and he is nice and kind that he hangs around and hangs around... listens , talks... but gets no sex. He get used. His woman friend is the user.

If you both acknowledge neither of you ever want to see the other naked and have sex.. then fine. You're friends. ................But in most situations, the male approaches the woman because he is sexually interested. Some are just too nice to say, "I'm sexually interested in you".

the sexual things are inevitable. .... No it isn't. Not without chemistry, and chemistry is instantly noticed, .... not always acted upon instantly.... but definitely noticed. .....So when the "Nice guy" says, "Can we have sex".... she says, "But if we have sex, that will ruin the friendship" [there is no sexual tension nor chemistry]....................How many times have you heard that Porndocker?


PornDokter 46M
8 posts
6/21/2018 9:19 am

Heathen_G - Man, you are going in circles here. What don't you understand? He initially wrote to her with a question. At that point it was socializing. In his mind maybe he had other intent but in her mind they are just chatting up to the point where he's digging for bj's. She tells him flat out in a general sense that almost no women here would just meet a random stranger for a bj..although he's walking on thin ice at this point it's still general chatting and what she is doing at this point is giving the hint that she doesn't meet randoms for bj's. Essentially she's saying "don't go there because I don't do it and I'm not interested in that and I'm here to chat to you and answer your actual question". I think he got the hint at that point and asked her why she was on the site. Again he should already know why she on here..but he didn't read her damn profile. You spout all of this stuff about her baiting him..not true at all. In actuality it was HIM baiting HER by strategically setting up his bj realtor question in a manner that lures her in by first saying "may I ask a very specific question???". This first question sets up mystery and the reader is now curious what the question is about. She acknowledges and agrees to engage in chat with "sure as long as it's nothing off the wall". He asks for her honesty, then proceeds to ask her an off the wall question anyway. She basically laughs at him with a laughing smiley but she answers him honestly anyway. And so the rest unfolds...

You just keep going in circles here about it with your contradictions.

'Therefore, there was no reason whatsoever to contact this woman to begin with and pursuing her for sexual matters. ... But he did, and he had his reason [we'll never know] .... But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..................she did not end it.'

You said "But he did, and he had his reason [we'll never know]" - This is his own stupidity then. How is it her fault for engaging in a general chat?
"But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..she did not end it". - Right she didn't end it. She took on the chat FOR chatting. Why would she end a chat if she agreed to take it on because she wanted to chat? He had his question answered honestly by her. If that's all he wanted then fine..he should have left at that point. He didn't! He kept pressing her. If he wanted to general chat..fine..the door seemed wide open to do so and he just kept pressing on physical features and physical intimacy rather than on friendship things that he first said he was looking for. Multiple times all she did was try to get him back on track to where he needed to be in general chat. Instead he ignored her words and kept on pressing. Sure, she could have left the chat but the whole reason she took it on is because the point was to chat and to answer a question. If someone wants to fucking chat then do so like an adult. These women don't need to hold these men's hands and continually guide them on track. If they cannot follow basic cues or a catching on to vibes that don't seem like the other person is interested in then switch the game up and align your chat to the same level as what the other person is here for. Simple!

'I see you making no quote to ALL of the reasons of what she said this site has to offer. ... No need to. However, this site offers the chance to find sex.... and he is looking for sex. Once she found that out.. she should have disconnected, instead baiting further conversation.'

"No need to." - Yes there is a need to! You somehow feel as if this site can not provide anything else except for sex by the way you talk. This just isn't true. There are a ton of reasons people come here and only a fraction of those reasons actually have to do with two or more people meeting up and performing sexual favors to one another.
"However, this site offers the chance to find sex.... and he is looking for sex." - True it offers a potential to find sex. He's looking for oral sex but she isn't. There is no mystery here. If he read profile before sending an IM to her then this is his fault.
"Once she found that out.. she should have disconnected, instead baiting further conversation." - His entire plan was in baiting her from the start. He was too damn lazy and ignorant to read a profile but makes up this baiting strategy to draw interest and then hope to get lucky. Fact of the matter is that he doesn't realize she's not game. Why? Because he didn't fucking read!!!! His fault all the way!!! So in her mind - "oh this guy has a question and/or is just writing me to chat..sure, no problem".

'She laid out all the various reasons people come here for but you ignore them. .... Didn't need to address them. The point is, this is a sex site, and sex is clearly advertised.'

"Didn't need to address them." - Yes she did need to! It helps you goofs understand that it serves more than a single purpose of just getting laid.
"The point is, this is a sex site, and sex is clearly advertised." - No, it isn't! Sure, it's ADULT oriented and has sexual flavor being obvious, but that doesn't translate into it being purely a sex site. When we turn on a late night HBO movie and it says 'this movie is rated R for mature ADULTS' it doesn't translate to HBO as being straight up balls deep porn! Sure, you'll have a flavor of romance, maybe see a set of tits here and there, some foul language or maybe a few scenes of violence. That's ADULT. The name of this site AdultCR.com Adult Chatroulette. It's an ADULT personals site and an ADULT social media outlet. It doesn't say Adult SEX Finder. The corporate section says who we are and what the site is for. It doesn't mention "sex" anywhere at all. The sexual advertisements are merely a ploy to generate profit because this is a business and sex sells. So although their mission doesn't actually come out and say it's "sex", the illusion they give does say that. Problem being is that we all fall for the illusion and think this site is 100% purely about sex. Not at all the truth. I can't imagine that even 10-15% of the population here actually meets up, let alone for sexual matters.

'You men have this imaginary idea in your minds that women are all here for sex. ... Not true. But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob. ... She has the option of disconnecting at that point.'

"But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob" - Not true. Her profile laid everything out for what she wants. If someone overrides that info then they are crossing the line and pushing the envelope. This is not acceptable. Period! If he is looking for a bj then it's his responsibility to read profiles and look for someone who is looking for random hookups for oral sex. Again this is simple to understand! You don't blindly write to someone who contradicts what you look for.

'In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. ... That's fine, as long as women respect that men have come to the appropriate place to seek sex.'

"That's fine, as long as women respect that men have come to the appropriate place to seek sex." - Very true! They do come to the right place for finding sexual matters. However, the difference being that he was disrespectful to her the moment he hit the send button on his first IM to her if he didn't read her profile before sending IM to her. THAT's the difference! I don't think the women have a problem with what all of the pervy guys come here for, as long as criteria matches with what they look for when IM's come in.

I don't understand your mentality. This isn't rocket science to understand. If you just want to socialize with someone for the hell of it, say so and be sure to read a profile first. Otherwise if you have deeper intent then you just read a profile first and ask yourself if what you just read is a match for what you are looking for. Yes or no? If yes, write to her. If no, then no need to contact someone at all ( which is what her blog is about ). Period! Simple! Why this has to turn in to a huge mountainous debate is boggling!


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/21/2018 11:53 am

    Quoting NoTellLover:
    Heathen_G don't be a dope. its clear he didnt read a profile. i mean whatever if he just wanted to chat and she was just chatting and made a reply back to his queston. how many women take the time to reply back? she was being nice to him by doing so. it became personal when he was hinting for a blow. this ain't about taking a chance. this is about him being a major dick for not reading and thinking he could get some action that isnt there in the first place. she wants a fwb. he wants a a quickie nsa blow. two different things. so if shes here just chillin and chatting then theres nothing wrong with it. that's what im is for. but if hes gonna rattle her cage and push boundary then he needs to read before goin after a blow that aint game. this ain't taking a chance this is being stupid and ignorrant. he's being a bully. why would she wanna leave a chat when she took it on to chat because he wanted to chat to her in first place? don't be a dumb-dumb! if everybody else here can see the same thing and agree then why cant you?
its clear he didnt read a profile. ... No it isnt.... but we all "Think" he didn't.

i mean whatever ... Sure.... go read the conversation again.

if he just wanted to chat .... No "Ifs" about it, he was chatting.

and she was just chatting and made a reply back to his queston. ... And when his question became counter to what she wants to deal with, she should have ended the chat [@2:16]. That would have been appropriate instead of she turning rude and belligerent.

she was being nice to him by doing so. ... Doesn't matter if she was "Being nice"... she became rude. For her own good, she should have ended the conversation when she noticed stuff about blowjobs. He either read her profile and was taking a chance, or he didn't read it. .... But that now really doesn't matter.

it became personal when he was hinting for a blow. ...Yes, at 2:16 at the start of the shown conversation.. and then is when she should have ended the conversation.

this ain't about taking a chance. ...You don't know that.

this is about him being a major dick for not reading and thinking he could get some action ... That's not being a dick. And again, at the point [2:16] when he began mentioning blowjob scales.... she should have terminated.

she wants a fwb. .... That doesn't work from online. Besides, any person as to meet , to even determine sexual chemistry. If there is no sexual chemistry, no desire to get each other naked, then you can forget about the benefits, and being just a "Friend" with a woman he wants to see naked, would be a complete waste of time for him.

he wants a a quickie nsa blow. ... Yes... and he's on the appropriate site for finding that.

so if shes here just chillin and chatting then theres nothing wrong with it. ...Doesn't matter if she's chilling and chatting , or fuming and chatting... she had the responsibility to terminate when she suspected he did not read her profile.

but if hes gonna rattle her cage and push boundary then he needs to read before goin after a blow that aint game. .... We don't know for sure , if he didn't read, or if he did read and was taking a chance.

he's being a bully. ... LOL.. oh little girl, if you think that was him being a bully, you have no idea what a bully is. If she had terminated he conversation, and he tried to chat with her again on the same topic, THEN you could call him a bully. Okay kiddo?

why would she wanna leave a chat ... Normally people leave chats when they suspect the other of not reading ones profile.

because he wanted to chat to her in first place? ... Doesn't really matter what he wanted... when she suspected him of not reading her profile, that is when she should have terminated.

if everybody else here can see the same thing and agree then why cant you? ... Because you and some of the others don't see, or failed comprehension. Some of you are too ready to kiss up to her , when clearly she was the rude belligerent person in the conversation - she should have ended at 2:16.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/21/2018 12:58 pm

Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/17/2018 11:06 am:
I don't think you quite understand. Re-read the conversation again. He wrote to me, asking my honest opinion on some theoretical question regarding how I like blowjobs ( he didn't initially say it was for HIM ). In turn, I answered his question with honesty.

I got pissed because when I am kind enough to respond to others here, the respect isn't given back in turn. We all heard the term "give respect; get respect"....and that's what's lacking here. We women give respect, yet never get respect in turn. So, he asked for my honesty and opinions, he got his answers....simple! If he didn't like the answers I gave, he shouldn't have asked for my honesty or opinions in the first place. Correct? So instead of respecting my answers, he apparently disagreed with what I said and then his super ego got in the way, so he retorts with childish retaliation with a Match dot c o m comment...and so sparked the idiocy by him.

Oh sure, he is on the right site for sexual matters. However, why he personally writes me for those sexual matters is another situation. Does my profile say I want to meet random strangers and give them oral sex? No, it doesn't. This is not my fault here, it's his fault for not reading my damn profile. When will you men wake up and see this stuff?

But anyway, I did essentially say "no" to the blowjob thing when I went on in the conversation to say his question was theoretical. He, in turn, said it's not theoretical and that the cute realtor guy at the condo was him ( basically hinting to me that he wanted to meet for a bj ). You'll read that I didn't show any interest in his proposition and told him that it was fictional to mostly all women who exist here, as they almost always seek friendship and compatibility established prior to sexual matters with them. So yes, I essentially did say "no", I was done with answering his question that he so badly wanted me to answer. At that point, all that he then needed to do was form respectful closure by thanking me for my time and for answering his question honestly and we could then part ways on a good note. Did he do that? NO!!! Instead, he chose to be a smart ass because his super asshole ego was blown to bits and shoot off a childish and sarcastic message to me. What isn't being understood about this and the need that us women here demand respect??? Is it too much to ask to say "thanks for your time, appreciate your honesty in answering my questions" or "my apologies for not reading/overlooking your profile details and I expected more" and "take care/good luck/have a great day"?? I mean, come on....should this really lead to messages like "go to Match dot c o m"? "You can fuck yourself for all I'm concerned"? "Your elementary education probably doesn't know what it means"? "Fuck off"? etc... If you don't understand this, then you are a big part of what's wrong here when it comes to respect being a two-way street here.


You got an I.M. from a guy holding his boner, on a hookup site, and he asks you if he can ask you a "Specific question" [about blowjobs] , and 10 being you would give head to a realtor posing as a fake buyer.... and you tell him you like giving head... he tells you he is a realtor ............You're not stupid, you should have terminated the conversation right there, @2:16 or @2:19.

Him , saying, "You should probably checkout Match".... was not childish...and he was essentially giving you a good idea based on what you seek. A better suggestion would also have been "Friendfinder".

You're not here for hookups,, you're here to make friends. That's fine... but men are here for sex. ....Even seeking a "Fwb", anyone first needs to establish mutual sexual chemistry. Not, "Lets be friends and see what happens".

And you can't demand respect, nor can you expect respect [from anyone], and he certainly did not need to thank you after your picking him apart. That's just ridiculous.


Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/21/2018 2:01 pm:
You are talking but you are NOT listening to what me or others are telling you. Listen for once!

"You got an I.M. from a guy holding his boner, on a hookup site, and he asks you if he can ask you a "Specific question" [about blowjobs] , and 10 being you would give head to a realtor posing as a fake buyer.... and you tell him you like giving head... he tells you he is a realtor ............You're not stupid, you should have terminated the conversation right there, @2:16 or @2:19."

I went over this before. This site isn't solely a hookup site. Understand, asshole??? The site is used for many reasons.

At the time I took on his IM he merely told me he had a question. That's all!! I opened his IM and told him that I would agree to answer it as long as it wasn't off the wall. What does he do, but ask some theoretical question. He didn't first say that he himself was a realtor at a condo, he merely stated a theoretical question. I answered it truthfully. I did NOT say that I wanted to OR that I would like giving HIM head. All I did was answer his question in a general sense. Do I like giving head was the question....my answer, yes, I enjoy it and think it plays a major part in intimacy ( in my own honest opinion, as he was asking ). Stop twisting the scenario. I didn't lead him on or bait him by answering the question and I even told him right up front that his question was purely theoretical and that I had no comment to the realtor part since it was theoretically-based and irrelevant to the basis of the actual question at hand.

I'm not parting conversation. He wrote to me first and wanted to chat and so I did.

"Him , saying, "You should probably checkout Match".... was not childish...and he was essentially giving you a good idea based on what you seek. A better suggestion would also have been "Friendfinder"."

It was very childish. If he doesn't know of all of the different reasons that one can reside on this site, then he needs to brush up on knowledge of knowing the site isn't all about purely sex. Most people ( women ) aren't here to meet for sex anymore.

Friendfinder? You do realize that AdultCR.com Adult Chatroulette is all part of the Friendfinder network, correct? There must be a dozen or two sister sites all within the Friendfinder network. And no, I know what I seek here and there is nothing out of the ordinary or inappropriate for what I seek here. It's well within the parameters of what this site is here to offer.

"You're not here for hookups,, you're here to make friends. That's fine... but men are here for sex. ....Even seeking a "Fwb", anyone first needs to establish mutual sexual chemistry. Not, "Lets be friends and see what happens"."

Incorrect! My profile says I seek a friend first, and hopefully potential fun to follow if a friendship develops first. This means FWB. So I'm here for both friendship and for sex....in that order. Chemistry would need to be established for sure, but you are taking this way out of the scope of what this blog entails. I didn't reply to him for "chemistry" or to "make a friendship with him" or to eventually "have sex with him". I replied to him to take on his question. That's all! Again, you take this way out of the scope of what the discussion pertains to.

"And you can't demand respect, nor can you expect respect [from anyone], and he certainly did not need to thank you after your picking him apart. That's just ridiculous."

Nope, sorry. Disagree! I was raised with the morals of 'give respect, get respect'. I give it to others, so I expect it in return. Easy concept to follow, correct? You're ridiculous! How many females here actually respond to men at all? Nearly none! I'm not putting myself on a pedastal for doing so, but what I do expect is for the other person to acknowledge that I have taken my time and effort to reply to you, so I expect respect and courtesy within my conversation with the other party. If you don't like the honest answers I give you when you ask, tough! Why did you ask my opinion and honesty from the start then? Keep your thoughts to yourself if you cannot handle it, tell me respectfully that you appreciate my time or simply that we don't see eye to eye and form a respectful closing note so we can part ways on a good note. This is extremely basic and simple stuff!

Quit making more out of this than what it is and defending the asshole here. Nobody is agreeing with you. Get a clue! We all can't be wrong.

Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/21/2018 8:19 pm

In response to: PornDokter 46M .. 6/21/2018 9:19 am

What don't you understand? ... I'd ask you the same question.

He initially wrote to her with a question. .... He did. And the question was from a man holding his boner, asking about, 10 being the best; giving a realtor a blow job, and he is a realtor.... what do ya think the implication might be?

At that point it was socializing. ... No.. At the point of Heels answering the I.M., it was socializing..... but then the "Socializing" quickly became apparent to where the socializing was going, and she could see that.

She tells him flat out in a general sense that almost no women here would just meet a random stranger for a bj. ... She means she would not.... however other women have been known to meet with men, and get sexual. Why? Because the chemistry was there.

and what she is doing at this point is giving the hint that she doesn't meet randoms for bj's. ... What time-point was that.

Essentially she's saying "don't go there... She didn't say that. Stay to what was said. In fact she did say she likes giving head. She enjoys it in the 9-10 range, -not a "No"... so he then told her he is a realtor..... -still she has not disconnected.

You spout all of this stuff about her baiting him. ... She's not saying "No"... she's not disconnecting. She did tell him she likes giving head [@2:19].

then proceeds to ask her an off the wall question anyway. ... Then her sense should have told her the guy holding his boner was up to something, and disconnected.

How is it her fault for engaging in a general chat? ... That's not what I said.

"But 2 minutes into the conversation, she had the option to end it..she did not end it". - Right she didn't end it. .... Yes..... So she can't pretend she's all upset and shocked. She cannot call him rude, because up to the suggestion of looking at Match ... then at 2:27 she started being rude to him. ....Although @2:24 she was determining this guy was not here for friendship. [Took long enough].

he should have left at that point. ....At 2:24... if not 2:16... is when she should have pulled the plug...... He hadn't been given any reason to end this yet.

Sure, she could have left the chat but the whole reason she took it on is because the point was to chat and to answer a question. .... Okay, so then this is all her fault. In fact she didn't have to get rude , but she did... she could have disconnected.

If someone wants to fucking chat then do so like an adult. .... He did. And appropriately for the site, I'll add.

"No need to." - Yes there is a need to! ...No there isn't a need to include the other stuff the site offers.. because men know what they want when they fill out a profile , add a pic, and join a hookup site.

You somehow feel as if this site can not provide anything else except for sex by the way you talk. ... This is a sex site. Does that confuse you? You, too, as funcouple, have a picture of your boner, what message are you telling women, do you suppose.

There are a ton of reasons people come here and only a fraction of those reasons actually have to do with two or more people meeting up and performing sexual favors to one another. ... However, "Sexual favors" is what funcouple made quite clear. . Heels could see that.

True it offers a potential to find sex. ... Yes, and that's what he was shooting for.

He's looking for oral sex but she isn't. ... Then she should have disconnected.

If he read profile before sending an IM to her then this is his fault. ... We don't know for a fact he didn't read it. Yes, he asked her at 2:22 "Why are you on here" ... but that is not a confirmation he didn't read her profile..... but did, or did not, the question was civil.

His entire plan was in baiting her from the start. ... Of course it was. That's not wrong. But she failing to disconnect, was wrong. She, baiting him on a topic that is distasteful to her, was wrong.

He was too damn lazy and ignorant to read a profile ... We don't know that.

but makes up this baiting strategy to draw interest and then hope to get lucky. ... Yes.. that's what men do when he thinks he has found a woman he likes.

So in her mind - "oh this guy has a question and/or is just writing me to chat..sure, no problem". .....We don't know how naive she is , either. What we do know, is what is shown in the conversation.

"Didn't need to address them." - Yes she did need to! ..... Sure she can address them all she wants....however , I did not. Because the guy was hoping to engage her in some sex.

it serves more than a single purpose of just getting laid.... .. Maybe it does, but the purpose of joining a site with a bunch of naked women on it, on cam, on chat, on file... is sex. You know that , since you're showing your penis erect.

Sure, it's ADULT oriented and has sexual flavor being obvious, but that doesn't translate into it being purely a sex site. .... It translates into , "Hey buddy, you're on the right site to find sex".

'You men .... About that. Are you a chick trying to prove something?

"But you can't get upset because men make sexual remarks and tells the woman he is looking for a blowjob" - Not true. .... If she was so upset, she should have disconnected the conversation. But she didn't... she got all upset, and she was rude to him.

Her profile laid everything out for what she wants. ... Maybe it does , maybe it doesn't.... no where in the conversation did she ask him , "Did you read my profile". ...No where did he say he did, or didn't , either.

If someone overrides that info then they are crossing the line and pushing the envelope. .... People can push the envelope. It's called , "Taking a chance".

This is not acceptable. ... It's fine. Haven't you ever been contacted by those you don't want? Sure you have. They took a chance.

You don't blindly write to someone who contradicts what you look for. ... If that is what he did? This is called, "Taking a chance".

'In fact most women here choose not to meet anyone and just come here to socialize,cam,blog and things like that. ....That is your result, because nice guys don't attract chicks, except for being her platonic friend.

However, the difference being that he was disrespectful to her the moment he hit the send button on his first IM to her ... No... he was taking a chance. People can do that.

I don't think the women have a problem with what all of the pervy guys come here for, as long as criteria matches with what they look for when IM's come in. .... Sure.. if she is a pervy woman... all is good. If not, then she should disconnect since she did not contact him. Instead of being rude to him.

I don't understand your mentality. ... However , I understand yours.

Why this has to turn in to a huge mountainous debate is boggling! ...... Because you are upset that there are more aggressive men , and they take chances. At any time , before Heels got upset and rude with him , she could have terminated the conversation.


Rochblue 41F
2 posts
6/21/2018 11:01 pm

My comments to Heathen disappeared too notell. This site operates in a 1982 domain. Well I'm not going to rewrite it all again. I echo everyone else here that Heathen is clueless and wrong. Maybe one person disagreeing can be expected here and there on a blog but when you now have like a half dozen people all sending the same exact signal to you, then it's worth considering who is mistaken here. It's not coincidence we're all disagreeing with you and you are the only soul agreeing with the nitwit guy in the IM. Take the hint.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/22/2018 1:44 am

Response to: Heels_N_Squeals replies on 6/21/2018 2:01 pm:

I went over this before. This site isn't solely a hookup site. Understand, asshole??? The site is used for many reasons. ... Yes, but primarily when you respond to an I.M. with a guy holding his junk and asking you how much do you like giving head... he's probably looking for sex. .....And don't be rude to me, too.

At the time I took on his IM he merely told me he had a question. That's all!! ... We see that. A guy holding his junk said that... you said as long as it's not off the wall... he asked about blowjobs and you laughed.

He asked his "Specific" question... You added "Theoretical" to the description...not him.

You answered , Yes.... he told you is a realtor standing in a condo... [2:19] ...Where did you think this was going?

Stop twisting the scenario. ... Heels, it's copied right there.. .all can read it. There is no twisting. At 2:19 you should have disconnected , instead of blaming him and calling him rude.

I didn't lead him on or bait him by answering the question ... Like it or not, that is exactly what you did. You didn't say, "Stop" . You didn't say, "That question is off the wall".

and I even told him right up front that his question was purely theoretical ... He told you the question was "Specific".... and he told you at 2:19 he's the realtor. Come-on.

He wrote to me first and wanted to chat and so I did.... Yes.. and when it got to the point [2:17] telling you about his blowjob luck, and then at 2:19 saying he is the realtor...was this not "Off the wall" enough for you?

It was very childish. ... No it wasn't. It was a civil suggestion.

If he doesn't know of all of the different reasons that one can reside on this site, then he needs to brush up on knowledge of knowing the site isn't all about purely sex. ... No way of knowing what he knows or doesn't know.... his chat with was very sexual and explicit...and you should have disconnected at 2:19 , or 2:17 .

Most people ( women ) aren't here to meet for sex anymore. .... Doesn't matter. He's looking for the woman on a sex site willing to have sex with him.... Very appropriate. And his photo should have clued you in.

Friendfinder? You do realize that AdultCR.com Adult Chatroulette is all part of the Friendfinder network, correct? .... Absolutely... but the profiles on AdultFF are not seen on Friendfinder .... doesn't matter if it's the same person.. the profiles [wording etc] is very different. Pictures too, are not showing junk shots on F.F..

And no, I know what I seek here and there is nothing out of the ordinary or inappropriate for what I seek here. ... Didn't say there was... but you , you have to accept what men seek, here , is perfectly appropriate.

It's well within the parameters of what this site is here to offer. ... Males , like him, are also well within the parameters.

"You're not here for hookups,, you're here to make friends. That's fine... but men are here for sex. ....Even seeking a "Fwb", anyone first needs to establish mutual sexual chemistry. Not, "Lets be friends and see what happens"."

Incorrect! .... No. You want a Fwb... you need to first establish that you would have sex with the guy. Because if you cannot see yourself having sex with him, and don't reject him..... then he will be wondering when the benefits come .

My profile says I seek a friend first,.... Yes... great for nice guys... waste of time for other guys who joined a hookup site. But still some men, as him, may still take a chance .

and hopefully potential fun to follow if a friendship develops first. ... That's unrealistic without first acknowledging you could have sex with him.

This means FWB. So I'm here for both friendship and for sex....in that order. /color].... Yes, but it isn't really in that order because first you have to be able to see/imagine yourself actually having sex with the man. IF the attraction is just not there, then don't waste his time. Sexual attraction is visceral and immediate. It doesn't show up later after you know each other favorite colors and birthdays.

Chemistry would need to be established for sure,... That's what I just said... First you need to establish if you could ever have sex with him. Not, "Lets be friends and see what happens".

but you are taking this way out of the scope of what this blog entails. ... Not really.. just sees like it with all this typing.... You insist he is rude.. .I'm pointing out you were rude first, and you could have ejected at 2:19.... when you learned the details.

I didn't reply to him for "chemistry" or to "make a friendship with him" or to eventually "have sex with him". .... Okay... but he very obviously contacted you for sexual reasons, you could see that quite soon .

I replied to him to take on his question. That's all! Again, you take this way out of the scope of what the discussion pertains to... You took a question from a man holding his junk , in a car. A "Specific" question about how much you like giving oral .


"And you can't demand respect, nor can you expect respect [from anyone], and he certainly did not need to thank you after your picking him apart. That's just ridiculous."

Nope, sorry. Disagree! ... Okay, you can demand it... but you're not going to get it.... especially when you demand respect.... you have to earn respect... and even then, some won't give you respect. So you can't expect that they will give you respect.

I was raised with the morals of 'give respect, get respect'. ... Fine, but apparently your parents didn't tell you what the real world is like, outside of your walls.

I give it to others, so I expect it in return. ... Of course.. but that may not happen.

How many females here actually respond to men at all? ... I don't know about women responding to other men.

but what I do expect is for the other person to acknowledge that I have taken my time and effort to reply to you, so I expect respect and courtesy within my conversation with the other party. .... You should have then followed your own guidelines . Which you did not, from 2:27 on. However.. you can expect all you want... whether it's going to happen , is another tune.

Quit making more out of this than what it is and defending the asshole here. ... I'm defending the allegation that he was rude, as you said.... and he was not, until you began the rudeness, to him.


Banana_Canyon 40F  
178 posts
6/22/2018 10:12 am

Heathen_G, don't be a clown. You quote every single person here and twist everyone's words around to create the illusion that Funcouple is the victim and that Heels is the perpetrator. I'm seeing the opposite. Funcouple had a strategic plan of baiting Heels when he IM'd her. She didn't know that. It seems that all she was doing was chatting on IM. Nothing wrong with that. From the beginning she made it very clear that she was honest and that she would answer his question if it wasn't bizarre. She did just that. If he received his answer and wasn't satisfied to chat any longer, then it should have been his duty to disengage on a positive note, not hers. After all, it seems she was here for the intent to chat and to answer a question, not to meet a stranger for a blowjob. I concur with the masses on this one: It's you, Heathen and Funcouple, who have the story backwards. Reading through this mass of information you've written on this blog, what I get out of it is that you pick everyone's words apart and bend them and turn the tables on the situation to fit the crooked agenda of the guilty. I get the impression you are in it to troll...or are just without a clue or sense of judgement for who is in the wrong here in the blog.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/22/2018 1:53 pm

    Quoting Banana_Canyon:
    Heathen_G, don't be a clown. You quote every single person here and twist everyone's words around to create the illusion that Funcouple is the victim and that Heels is the perpetrator. I'm seeing the opposite. Funcouple had a strategic plan of baiting Heels when he IM'd her. She didn't know that. It seems that all she was doing was chatting on IM. Nothing wrong with that. From the beginning she made it very clear that she was honest and that she would answer his question if it wasn't bizarre. She did just that. If he received his answer and wasn't satisfied to chat any longer, then it should have been his duty to disengage on a positive note, not hers. After all, it seems she was here for the intent to chat and to answer a question, not to meet a stranger for a blowjob. I concur with the masses on this one: It's you, Heathen and Funcouple, who have the story backwards. Reading through this mass of information you've written on this blog, what I get out of it is that you pick everyone's words apart and bend them and turn the tables on the situation to fit the crooked agenda of the guilty. I get the impression you are in it to troll...or are just without a clue or sense of judgement for who is in the wrong here in the blog.
You quote every single person here...I do not..

and twist everyone's words around to create the illusion that Funcouple is the victim ...He is wrongly accused of being rude. She was rude to him first. Everything they said is right there, printed. I can't twist that around. Clearly the woman "Heels" became rude with him first.

and that Heels is the perpetrator. ... Go read it... It's right there. For her to say he's a rude sob is unfair of her.

I'm seeing the opposite. Funcouple had a strategic plan of baiting Heels ... Clearly , yes, to me, to you, to the others.... so why didn't Heels see that by 2:19? Baiting her into accepting a suggestion of blowing him, doesn't make him a "Rude sob".

She didn't know that. ... By 2:19 into the conversation his motivation was very clear. Go read it. At 2:19.. is when Heels should have terminated a conversation not to her standards.

It seems that all she was doing was chatting on IM. ...Yes, she was chatting.

Nothing wrong with that. ... Nothing wrong with chatting. Also nothing wrong with what him just chatting , too.

From the beginning she made it very clear that she was honest and that she would answer his question if it wasn't bizarre. .... That's true... and he was honest too... at 2:19 he said he the realtor, ... basically between 2:16 to 2:19 , she could see he was chatting about her , giving him, a blowjob. To a woman just looking for a friend, at 2:19 is when she should have pulled the plug on the conversation.

If he received his answer .... There is no "IF". She continued to chat with him after 2:19.

and wasn't satisfied to chat any longer, then it should have been his duty to disengage on a positive note, not hers. ... No. We don't know what his standards are, but we know hers . Heels did not read his profile either [2:26] .... She is the one with particular standards of friendship first on a hookup site, and once she noticed, which she should have by 2:19 that those standards were not being met, she should have terminated.

After all, it seems she was here for the intent to chat ... As was he. Not like anything else could happen.

and to answer a question, not to meet a stranger for a blowjob. ... But she did answer.. and kept chatting with him.

what I get out of it is that you pick everyone's words apart and bend them and turn the tables on the situation .... No words did I "Bend". You have the transcript of what was said. Noted by a time line.... That is what we are looking at.

to fit the crooked agenda of the guilty. ... Also this isn't about him being guilty of anything. This is about Heels declaring him a "Rude sob".... when in fact, as shown, she is the first to be rude to him. Had she terminated? Then funcouple would have just been another guy on a hookup site trying to get some action.....Nothing wrong with that.

I get the impression you are in it to troll.. ...You are wrong. I see the man wrongly accused of being "Rude" , when clearly she became hostile towards him.


Heels_N_Squeals 44F
31 posts
6/22/2018 10:23 pm

Ok Heathen, last time to go through these essays. It's obvious you are set with your views and no matter how many times I lay out the details, you refuse to listen and comprehend what I'm saying. Nevertheless, I'll go on and answer your quotes for one last time. {Deep breath} So here it goes...

"I went over this before. This site isn't solely a hookup site. Understand, asshole??? The site is used for many reasons. ... Yes, but primarily when you respond to an I.M. with a guy holding his junk and asking you how much do you like giving head... he's probably looking for sex. .....And don't be rude to me, too."

I have repeatedly heard you recently saying he was "holding his junk". I'd assume 90% of the men here are doing that at any given time, however, this is a complete assumption on your part. Now, you want to nitpick on the minuscule details of everything I say on a forensic level, but how do you actually know his junk was in his hand at the time he sent an IM to me? You don't.
True, the question he asked was on a scale of 1 - 10, how much do I enjoy giving head. He was asking my opinion. The question was not in him asking me if I would give him head. Understand? The question was in how much I personally enjoyed it. Understand? I didn't at all say that I wanted to give him a bj or that I was interested in him at all. Understand? He had a question. That question was "on a scale of 1 - 10, how much do I enjoy giving head". Take the question at face value for what it simply says. I answered it honestly and was sure to insert the fact that the realtor part was purely theoretical and that I had no comment on that actual part of the questioning, as it wasn't relevant at all to the basis of the actual question. Understand yet?
If someone asks you if you like watermelon, the question is simple. Do you enjoy the taste of watermelon? Yes or no? It is not to say that the person is offering you a watermelon. And although this might be true after you reply with a yes or no answer, if it stems off in that direction once you've given your yes/no answer then you cross that bridge when you get to it and might say something like "I appreciate you offering me a fresh watermelon from your farm" or "although I love watermelon, I cannot eat them because I get an allergic reaction". Understand? The main and basic question is simply put: Do you like watermelon? That's all. Do you see the analogy in the IM? When I said that "yes, I personally love bj's and consider it a 9-10", I was simply answering his base question of "on a scale of 1 - 10, how much do I enjoy giving head". That's all! What don't you understand here so far?? Do you see the watermelon analogy when the topic branches off and he goes on to say "it doesn't have to be fictional and that he's at the condo and he's a realtor"....I immediately say to him that it may not be fictional to some women here, but most women don't care of guys sexual needs here. This was me telling him that I answered his base question honestly, but now I'm realigning him and declining his bj offer ( the allergic reaction to watermelon analogy applies when I decline offer ). I'm doing this in a gentle manner as to not come off as rude or to make anyone feel bad, yet still get the point across.

"At the time I took on his IM he merely told me he had a question. That's all!! ... We see that. A guy holding his junk said that... you said as long as it's not off the wall... he asked about blowjobs and you laughed.
He asked his "Specific" question... You added "Theoretical" to the description...not him."

You answered , Yes.... he told you is a realtor standing in a condo... [2:19] ...Where did you think this was going?"

Again, you make this up. You have no clue if he was holding his junk...pure assumption. Yes, I said as long as the question wasn't off the wall. What does he do, sends a laughable question. Although I didn't consider it completely off the wall, it was silly enough when reading it that it made me giggle. The giggling smiley should have been enough hint to cue him in to realizing that at that point I already thought he was either a jokester type or simply an idiot. Nevertheless, my purpose for being on IM was to chat, and so I did since the question was taken with a grain of salt. I answered his "specific question" ( as described above ) and also added that his questioning was in a "theoretical" manner....meaning that if he was taking this question to the level of hinting for me to give him oral, then the question applies only to certain few people here [ NOT me ].... hence, the very reason that a profile should be read and understood [ and respected by the contents given IF it was read ] prior to writing someone. I feel like I'm communicating to snails to anyone who cannot understand basic protocol here.

"Stop twisting the scenario. ... Heels, it's copied right there.. .all can read it. There is no twisting. At 2:19 you should have disconnected , instead of blaming him and calling him rude."

Correct, it is all there to read. Do so! Why should I disconnect with someone if I'm:
*Acknowledging a human being when they write to me ( basic human courtesy, which seems to be a long lost art already ).
* Answering his question.
* Chatting on a general level with someone.

There is no blaming taking place or rudeness until the point where he retorts and tells me to go to Match. What I did was display firmness and honesty. It didn't appear that he read my profile, so until men understand that, sure, then there will be firmness if you are writing to me and seem to be clueless of the basics of what my profile says. Firmness and rudeness aren't the same things.

"I didn't lead him on or bait him by answering the question ... Like it or not, that is exactly what you did. You didn't say, "Stop" . You didn't say, "That question is off the wall"."

No, I didn't bait him or lead him on ( refer above to where I described myself answering his base question ). He baited me!!! Other people commenting here say the same and even you admit this, too. Why would I say "Stop" to someone asking me a simple question? Again, I answered the question honestly and was firm to include that I had no interest in his proposition". I didn't tell him that his question was off the wall, because I thought it was more comical than anything. Sure, the question was a bit odd, but I have seen some REALLY bizarre questions being asked here before....this really wasn't one of them.

"and I even told him right up front that his question was purely theoretical ... He told you the question was "Specific".... and he told you at 2:19 he's the realtor. Come-on."

At 2:14 he said it was "specific"....he asked it at 2:16. In chronological order....at 2:19 I answered his base question ( bj 1-10 scale ) and was sure to make a special note to his "Specific" part ( pertaining to the realtor/condo part ). Later on within the same minute of 2:19, he announces that HE is a realtor and is at the condo. I then went on to politely decline his hint by telling him it was fictional to most women here. If I were interested in a random bj, I'd have no reason to say the part of fictional....that was his cue from me that I wasn't interested in it. You'd have to be completely stupid not to get the vibe that a woman isn't interested in a proposition like that if she felt the need to include it being a fictional scenario. So you, come on!

"He wrote to me first and wanted to chat and so I did.... Yes.. and when it got to the point [2:17] telling you about his blowjob luck, and then at 2:19 saying he is the realtor...was this not "Off the wall" enough for you?"

Again, my intent of being on IM was for the pure purpose to chat. I mean, sure, if someone came along in IM who met the criteria I sought, then I'd take the lead and see where it went. But he didn't meet criteria at all. Let's review:

* My intent of being on IM that day was to chat....so I did.
* My profile says I seek a FWB.
* He seeks NSA.
* Did he read profile? It's obvious he didn't if he asked me what I was here looking for.

So there was nothing completely off the wall of his question. I made it very clear on the realtor/condo parts, made it clear to tell him his idea was fictional ( declining his offer ), was firm and yet polite in doing so. At 2:17 he described his six year dry spell ( later admitted to lying to me about it )....and I firmly told him that most women here really could care less about a man's sexual needs or been deprived of a bj in six years. This isn't rude, this is being honest ( in what he asked me from the start to do ) and firm ( in what I believe to be truth and a disinterest in his inclusion of the question ). This doesn't mean that I'm the one who should be running from this conversation with my tail between my legs. I'm here to chat...that's what I did. He initiated chat....I took it on. I cannot make this any more clear to you. If he didn't like the honest answers given, then it was his part to disengage, not mine!!!

"It was very childish. ... No it wasn't. It was a civil suggestion."

No, it really wasn't. It was a childish form of retaliation against me because his butt was hurt. He knew he didn't read my profile, he realized we weren't a match for what we both sought and he didn't want to leave the conversation knowing that I had the upper hand and was in control of things once he realized he wasn't getting a bj from me. That's exactly what the Match comment was all about! It wasn't any civil suggestion. He's clueless like you!

Facts:
* He's a gold member ( with ability to read profiles ).
* He didn't read my profile. My profile doesn't say that I'm a single that's looking to date someone or to get involved in a serious relationship as a couple with anyone ( the point of what Match is for ).
* He knew exactly that his intent was to be sarcastic and was intended to childishly retort against me. His idiotic mentality: "Oh, I'm not getting a bj from her?....well I'll show her that she's not getting away with it without me getting the upper hand of control of the situation or leaving on a pleasant note because I'm an alpha male with a larger-than-life and over-the-top ego". This is precisely his logic! Unarguably!

"If he doesn't know of all of the different reasons that one can reside on this site, then he needs to brush up on knowledge of knowing the site isn't all about purely sex. ... No way of knowing what he knows or doesn't know.... his chat with was very sexual and explicit...and you should have disconnected at 2:19 , or 2:17 ."

Yes there is definitely a way of knowing. It's called utilizing your gold membership to first read a profile before contacting someone if you're intent to contact them is more than purely for the sake of general chit chatting. Again, I'm on IM to chat....sexually-based chat or not....my role was intended to chat. That's all, nothing more. Stop saying that I should have disengaged. HE should have disengaged. Again, what do you not understand about me being on IM to chat? So by that logic, anyone who is signed on to IM and takes on a reply is automatically supposed to turn chat into real encounters for sex? Get a clue!! Majority of women who chat probably never meet up. Most are here to just chit chat, regardless of the content and topics of chat. I have never once given the impression that I was interested in him as a person, interested in him for real sexual encounters or otherwise. I made each comment of mine honest and very specific, as to not mislead, but yet to converse. This is so simple that it's laughable! I answered a question honestly, held my ground firmly and gave detailed answers as to keep conversation aligned to merely chat and not to mislead about real-life encounters. Simple as that! Now I'm being torn apart for being a kind person for merely replying to a guy, answering a question and for the will to just chat on a general level with someone? Unreal!

"Most people ( women ) aren't here to meet for sex anymore. .... Doesn't matter. He's looking for the woman on a sex site willing to have sex with him.... Very appropriate. And his photo should have clued you in."

Well yeah, it does matter, because the less and less real women that reside here ( due to goofball guys like this that push them away and turn them off ), the harder and harder it is for those women who are left to find decency and honesty. Lies, manipulation and games take over and due to lack of variety, we're being bombarded with dozens of men daily. Similarly, for the male population, it's just as cut-throat, and the less females there are here, the higher the competition and the more aggressive men get in the process. The site is a complete wreck when it comes to the grossly imbalanced male to female ratio here. So yes, to answer that part, it does matter a LOT!
We went over this before and you still don't seem to get it. True, he's on the right site to find sex, if that's what he seeks....however, it's in his own laziness, ignorance and idiocy that he is deciding to write to me for sex. So I'll say it again. The right site for sex? YES!!! Is he contacting the right person for that sex? NO!!! You cannot seem to see the difference there and it's a HUGE flaw by him and you!
What does anyone's photo have to do with anything? A photo of a cock is a photo of a cock. Big whoop! My profile is a pair of heels and panties around my ankles, again, big whoop. It's not to say that a pic is speaking to you....this is exactly why a profile has a description section, which explains why a person is here and what they seek, not a pic, nor a screen name. That [ a pic ] just shows the physical person of whom you are speaking to. Take it at face value. You look into everything way too much deeper that it is at face value and take things out of the scope of what things are intended to be. So if I'm not to chat to anyone who has a cock pic on profile [ on the basis that a cock pic = I should be having sexual relations with that person ], then that would eliminate about 97% of men on this site. Laughable!

"Friendfinder? You do realize that AdultCR.com Adult Chatroulette is all part of the Friendfinder network, correct? .... Absolutely... but the profiles on AdultFF are not seen on Friendfinder .... doesn't matter if it's the same person.. the profiles [wording etc] is very different. Pictures too, are not showing junk shots on F.F.."

Then my apologies. I'm not familiar with sites other than signing on the AdultCR.com Adult Chatroulette, but I do know that FF network is all comprised of sister sites. I never personally looked in to it deeper. Nevertheless, if I'm on this site seeking a FWB, then that means the the "F" part of it seeks friendship and the "WB" part of it is seeking sex/intimacy, also. That then means that I'm perfectly within my parameters for being on this site for what I am seeking and for what this site is designed to find. Nothing more needs to be said about pics or otherwise. I seek FWB, I'm on the right site for either ( "F" ) OR both options ( "FWB" ).

"And no, I know what I seek here and there is nothing out of the ordinary or inappropriate for what I seek here. ... Didn't say there was... but you , you have to accept what men seek, here , is perfectly appropriate."

You're right, it's the appropriate place for what they seek. I didn't say that I did NOT accept that fact. I DO accept and respect that fact. What I do not accept is the fact that when I'm seeking apples, someone expects oranges when they write to me. If my profile says one thing and it's as clear as day and I took the time to specifically make a note of certain things on my profile, then why on earth are gold members contacting me blindly and pursuing nothing even remotely close to what I seek. You constantly sit here and tell me "they are taking a chance". NO!!! What they are really doing is being lazy [ in not reading], being ignorant [ in not reading ], aren't comprehending basic info [ if they did read it ] or actually trying to override my profile criteria [ if they actually did read ]. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE!!!!! Understand?

"It's well within the parameters of what this site is here to offer. ... Males , like him, are also well within the parameters."

He is within parameters to seek whatever sexual, non-sexual, fetish or otherwise here. I have no problem with that. It becomes my business when these fools don't read/don't comprehend/override my profile ( as just described above ). Chatting is one thing. Pursuing to meet/sex is yet another. If you cannot understand this, then you are being dense!

"Incorrect! .... No. You want a Fwb... you need to first establish that you would have sex with the guy. Because if you cannot see yourself having sex with him, and don't reject him..... then he will be wondering when the benefits come ."

I want a FWB. Perhaps you're right. Ideally there would be some sort of chemistry in some way, shape or form. This is the Law of Attraction. I'd have to see some sort of potential in that person in either a sexual or non-sexual manner that would spark my interest. Very true. But again, you are taking this way out of the scope of what this blog is about.

Here's the key facts:

* I'm not here pursuing this guy. He is pursuing me!!!
* I'm not interested in this guy for an intimate encounter, although he is!!
* I'm here chatting for the pure sake of chat. He's chatting for the sake of hookup.

What are you NOT understanding here regarding the scope of this blog? I'm not looking for chemistry in this man. He lives in excess of an hour from me and my profile clearly describes that I seek a local NOT EXCEEDING the range of 30-40 minutes MAXIMUM. By that fact alone, I have no need or desire to even care if potential chemistry exists, because there is no realistic basis for what I seek/require when it comes to distance factors between him and I. There is no "chance to take" because none even exists from the start. He's out of range, therefore, he doesn't fit criteria of what I seek/require. End of discussion. The chat between him and I was just that, purely chat!! He would have know that had he read profile. He didn't! Therefore, he's an idiot for thinking a potential for an imaginary scenario would magically occur. SMH!

"My profile says I seek a friend first,.... Yes... great for nice guys... waste of time for other guys who joined a hookup site. But still some men, as him, may still take a chance . "

It's not a hookup site. I have described several times that this site can be used for a wide variety of reasons. In fact, plenty of people are on this site and have no intent to meet at all. How many profiles say "just here to chat, not meeting" or "taking a break"? That's perfectly fine, since the site can and is used for an adult social media outlet.
Yes, definitely great for nice guys seeking a local FWB. Therefore, if someone is NOT local to me and is seeking and PURSUING an NSA, then there is absolutely no reason for that member to contact someone with intent of their search if it's contrary to the other person's profile criteria. End of discussion!

"and hopefully potential fun to follow if a friendship develops first. ... That's unrealistic without first acknowledging you could have sex with him."

Like I said above, yes, chemistry would need to be there if I was considering someone as a potential to have intimacy with. This was never the case with the guy in the IM, since he didn't even live locally within the parameters of what my profile described, thus, no reason for either of us to think of chemistry on any level at all. We were on a chat level.

"This means FWB. So I'm here for both friendship and for sex....in that order. /color].... Yes, but it isn't really in that order because first you have to be able to see/imagine yourself actually having sex with the man. IF the attraction is just not there, then don't waste his time. Sexual attraction is visceral and immediate. It doesn't show up later after you know each other favorite colors and birthdays."

Again, read above. I had no interest in this man on a chemistry level. He didn't even live locally, so was excluded immediately from anything realistic and in-person. I described all of this above.

"Chemistry would need to be established for sure,... That's what I just said... First you need to establish if you could ever have sex with him. Not, "Lets be friends and see what happens". "

Same thing, see above. We're talking about apples and oranges when it comes to chemistry vs. chat.

"I didn't reply to him for "chemistry" or to "make a friendship with him" or to eventually "have sex with him". .... Okay... but he very obviously contacted you for sexual reasons, you could see that quite soon ."

Correct, that was his flaw if he contacted me for sexual reasons, not mine. He's a gold member, he can read profiles. He either didn't read it, didn't comprehend it or felt the need to override it. No matter what the option was, he failed to comply. How does this tie in to someone who just sits here, minding her own business and is casually chatting to others? It doesn't. If he had a misunderstanding or some imaginary ideas that didn't exist then that's his fault for not reading before contact or to simply ask me his questions/concerns so they are ironed out and we're on the same page with one another.

"I replied to him to take on his question. That's all! Again, you take this way out of the scope of what the discussion pertains to... You took a question from a man holding his junk , in a car. A "Specific" question about how much you like giving oral ."

Third time, you make a complete assumption he was holding his junk. Also, completely assuming he was in a car. All he described is that he was at a condo and is a realtor.
As for his "specific" question...I made a clear effort to tell him that the realtor/condo part of the question was irrelevant to the base question at hand. You're going in circles over this information.

"Nope, sorry. Disagree! ... Okay, you can demand it... but you're not going to get it.... especially when you demand respect.... you have to earn respect... and even then, some won't give you respect. So you can't expect that they will give you respect. "

The equation is simple: Give respect, get respect. This is the general rule of thumb. I gave respect, yet didn't receive it back....which is exactly the reason why him and I no longer chat, because he ignored everything about me [ including my profile criteria, my kindness to reply to his IM, my honesty to answer his questions and my willingness to open the door to chat to him on a general level ], then retorted, then actually went to the length of insanity to block me, as if anything about me was at fault. So you're right, not everyone will give respect back. In fact, society is at such a deplorable level these days that almost nobody gives respect back. This is the new norm, sadly. And so as you might then imagine, no respect given back will obviously equal arguments, retaliation, bickering, hard feelings, blocking/ignoring, etc..., as which is the case here with him.

"I was raised with the morals of 'give respect, get respect'. ... Fine, but apparently your parents didn't tell you what the real world is like, outside of your walls."

Not true, taking a journey to the mid 70's forward, things were much different in society [ and we were much better off without this sort of technology which is a big part of what divided social structure ]. At that time I was indeed informed that there are jerks out there. That's part of life. I was also informed that two negatives don't equal a positive. In other words, by your logic, I should have ignored him and disengaged. Since when has ignorance ever been a solution to any human problem. Never! If someone commits a crime, we toss them in jail and ignore them and their problems. This isn't a solution. A solution is to give that person rehabilitation, to help that person with whatever underlying issues he/she has and to re-align them to better deal with society so they don't commit crimes again and so they can live in harmony with the rest of us and on the same level. Same here on the site...if someone writes to me, I know that another human being as equal to the same flesh, blood and feelings is on the other end. Why ignore an individual?...that's rude! Solution: Talk to that person. If he/she is misled and misguided, then re-align that person back on track to where they should be so that they are on the same page. If that cannot be established and two people cannot see eye to eye, then human decency is to part ways on a good note with respectful closure. No excuse! There is no reason for others [ grown adults ] to get all bent out of shape and retort like a 5 year-old. That's the problem these days. We've lost all respect for one another as human beings....politeness, kindness, respect is all out the window and we're left with a shell of a dumbed-down and rude society. Is it then any wonder why it's so terribly hard for most of us here seeking something rather simplistic and on the casual side to find anyone else even remotely taking each other's offers up to meet or form friendship? I see no mystery. It's so black and white.

"I give it to others, so I expect it in return. ... Of course.. but that may not happen."

Correct, and it didn't happen, sadly.

"How many females here actually respond to men at all? ... I don't know about women responding to other men."

I haven't taken a poll or done any research in the matter, but judging from what I hear from those men I have talked to, I'm hearing all of the same story. One man wrote me and said that out of about 50 women he IM'd to, I was the first to respond to him. Other men tell me the same tale, that they write to plenty of women and either:

* They don't respond [ the most common thing ].
* They respond, but only to quickly address that person [ i.e.: Saying "thank you" to someone for a compliment they made to her and then she quickly shuffles and exits IM to get the guy out of her hair ].
* They respond, but cannot hold a balanced two-way conversation for the life of them [ i.e.: Responding a "yes" or "no" to questions without asking any back, without elaborating in conversation or without showing any level of willing enthusiasm of interest at all to chat with the male party ].

Therefore, I conclude that very, VERY few women actually reply to men at all and when they actually do, there's only a slim chance that anything worthwhile stems from it worth any genuine meaning.

"but what I do expect is for the other person to acknowledge that I have taken my time and effort to reply to you, so I expect respect and courtesy within my conversation with the other party. .... You should have then followed your own guidelines . Which you did not, from 2:27 on. However.. you can expect all you want... whether it's going to happen , is another tune."

Guess you missed his Match comment of sarcasm ( as described above ). I followed my guidelines perfectly. At 2:27 that was childish and unnecessary to say to me. Bluntly, he struck a nerve and when someone talks down to me for no reason, at that point he deserved the third degree. If someone cannot chat on a general level without spouting off childish remarks because he knows he's not getting a bj from me, then he needs to learn basics of human interaction, listen to where he went wrong, and from there either re-align his attitude or to form respectful closure. And no, a "k bye" is about as vague and meaningless as would be a "f**k you" closure. Again, society has lost it's system of values. That's what this really boils down to.

"Quit making more out of this than what it is and defending the asshole here. ... I'm defending the allegation that he was rude, as you said.... and he was not, until you began the rudeness, to him."

Incorrect! At no point was I rude to him prior to his rude Match remark at 2:27. Once again, you're confusing truthful firmness with rudeness. Not the same thing. Being firm is having a goal set and being adamant to stick to that goal. Re-aligning him during parts of his irrelevant chat is not being rude, it's being firm and honest. Therefore, honesty is showing respect. Funny, I always thought that most men respected women who had a goal and were strong-willed and didn't budge from a goal or be persuaded otherwise? I always also thought that most men knew how to treat women [ in a general kind sense ]? Beats me. You wouldn't do this nonsense in person if you met someone at your local bar/club and told them to go to Match when he approaches a complete stranger [ female ] and asks for a bj that she declines on...so where's the justification to do it online? Only because he can hide behind the screen of his pc/cell phone and run away with his tail between his legs, rather than show his real embarrassment had it been in a public in-person setting. Unreal how childish men and society has become.

So there you have it. I won't be responding to any more of these essays. It's simply because they are time consuming to compose and on top of it all, you flip everything I [ and others ] say into something that only you can seem to make this loser look like the innocent one who wasn't rude. So where does this debating get each of us? At this rate, this can go on infinitely and in the end, we still see different things yet. Gets us nowhere. So all due respect, I will respectfully disengage this huge and endless debate. It was interesting to hear your point of views. Although I agree with almost none of it, I have dignity to respect your views, to thank you for chiming in and to leave on a positive note. See, it's not hard to get along with even people I disagree with....and I say that completely genuine.
Thanks again and take care.


Banana_Canyon 40F  
178 posts
6/23/2018 6:57 am

I am not going to write a book over it, Heathen_G. Almost everything I read in your response was picking my words apart and bending them.

"But she did answer.. and kept chatting with him."
Right, because she was here to chat. It wasn't like the idea of it was to go for chemistry or hookup. It's made clear that he's too far away anyway. The idea behind taking his message altogether was only and specifically to chat and to answer some mysterious question he had for her. Don't be a frikkin' clown!

"He is wrongly accused of being rude. She was rude to him first. Everything they said is right there, printed. I can't twist that around. Clearly the woman "Heels" became rude with him first."
"You are wrong. I see the man wrongly accused of being "Rude" , when clearly she became hostile towards him."
Are you reading the same thing as the rest of us are? There was nothing rude that Heels did. She was chatting and being honest in the answers. He became a smart ass on her and he started the rudeness part first, not her.

"After all, it seems she was here for the intent to chat ... As was he. Not like anything else could happen."
If he was here for intent to chat, then why was he pushing the envelope to meet up for a hookup? Why? Because he didn't read a profile first. He thought he was game for something that never existed. When he realized he was in the negative for that, he gets bent and acts like a child with a sarcastic comment, rather than just fessing up to the mistake of ignorance and exiting conversation on a happy wave.

What aren't you seeing that the rest of us are seeing here? It's perplexing how you ignore facts that are right under your nose and paint the picture of something different about the debate of these two members than the rest of us are all unanimously seeing.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/23/2018 7:38 pm

    Quoting Banana_Canyon:
    I am not going to write a book over it, Heathen_G. Almost everything I read in your response was picking my words apart and bending them.

    "But she did answer.. and kept chatting with him."
    Right, because she was here to chat. It wasn't like the idea of it was to go for chemistry or hookup. It's made clear that he's too far away anyway. The idea behind taking his message altogether was only and specifically to chat and to answer some mysterious question he had for her. Don't be a frikkin' clown!

    "He is wrongly accused of being rude. She was rude to him first. Everything they said is right there, printed. I can't twist that around. Clearly the woman "Heels" became rude with him first."
    "You are wrong. I see the man wrongly accused of being "Rude" , when clearly she became hostile towards him."
    Are you reading the same thing as the rest of us are? There was nothing rude that Heels did. She was chatting and being honest in the answers. He became a smart ass on her and he started the rudeness part first, not her.

    "After all, it seems she was here for the intent to chat ... As was he. Not like anything else could happen."
    If he was here for intent to chat, then why was he pushing the envelope to meet up for a hookup? Why? Because he didn't read a profile first. He thought he was game for something that never existed. When he realized he was in the negative for that, he gets bent and acts like a child with a sarcastic comment, rather than just fessing up to the mistake of ignorance and exiting conversation on a happy wave.

    What aren't you seeing that the rest of us are seeing here? It's perplexing how you ignore facts that are right under your nose and paint the picture of something different about the debate of these two members than the rest of us are all unanimously seeing.
am not going to write a book over it, Heathen_G. .... Is that bending your words? No.

Almost everything I read in your response was picking my words apart .... Is that picking your words apart? No. It's taking a sentence you said, and responding to your thought.

Are you reading the same thing as the rest of us are? ... Yes.

He became a smart ass on her and he started the rudeness part first, not her. .... Then you show me where he became rude first, in this "Chat". You can do that by noting the time.

"After all, it seems she was here for the intent to chat ... As was he chatting.

If he was here for intent to chat, then why was he pushing the envelope to meet up for a hookup? ....Why not? Anyone can chat and seek a hookup through chatting.

Why? Because he didn't read a profile first. ... So what? She didn't read his either.

He thought he was game for something that never existed. ... You don't know what he thought.

When he realized he was in the negative for that, .... Show me a time line.

he gets bent and acts like a child with a sarcastic comment, .... Show me a time line.

What aren't you seeing that the rest of us are seeing here? .... Because the rest of you are wrong. She calls him a "Rude son of a bitch". .....Show me the time line where she thinks he is a rude son of a bitch.

It's perplexing how you ignore facts .... Then show me your facts backing what you think.


Banana_Canyon 40F  
178 posts
6/25/2018 9:37 am

Heathen_G,

"am not going to write a book over it, Heathen_G. .... Is that bending your words? No."
You're too blind to see that this response by you is bending my words. "I am not going to write a book over it" doesn't mean anything more than what the comment simply implies. There's no reason to quote this or say "Is that bending your words? No." because you're trying to bend this into meaning something more than what it says and take it to another level. Troll.

"He became a smart ass on her and he started the rudeness part first, not her. .... Then you show me where he became rude first, in this "Chat". You can do that by noting the time."
He became rude to her first at the point of bringing up his Match comment.

"Are you reading the same thing as the rest of us are? ... Yes."
Then why can't you see that he began rudeness at this point of his Match comment like the rest of us are all seeing and commenting on?

"Why? Because he didn't read a profile first. ... So what? She didn't read his either."
The big difference here is that he was pursuing her ( blindly ) for something other than just chatting, while she, on the other hand, could care less of what he was looking for because again, she could already tell ( without clicking in his profile ) that he exceeded her range of required distance by his location. Therefore, there is no need for us women to look at a profile if we already know that someone is excluded from picture in a real-life meet or physical sense by the fact that someone lives too far away to consider it a realistic situation. We don't need to know anymore about a person or try to know someone better if immediately we already know we've reached a dead end from the start ( by his distance ). There's a really big difference between this argument and it's obvious that you're too bullheaded to see the two differences. Again, this is why you cannot agree and see the obvious things that the rest of us here are all disagreeing on you for!

"If he was here for intent to chat, then why was he pushing the envelope to meet up for a hookup? ....Why not? Anyone can chat and seek a hookup through chatting."
Please, just stop being either a troll or a bullheaded fool already. Why not, you say? Because he didn't read her fucking profile. If he did so, he'd immediately see that he wasn't local and was looking for something opposite than she was. It's extremely self-explanatory and is exactly the point that we have profiles! There's nothing more to say about this!

"Why? Because he didn't read a profile first. ... So what? She didn't read his either."
Same comment as above. She has no reason to read his profile if she's automatically seeing a distance issue with him. On the other hand, he is the one who is going after her, not the other way around. It's his responsibility to then read and understand a profile before getting in contact with someone. And again, this is why nobody agrees with you here on anything because you overlook critical facts.

"He thought he was game for something that never existed. ... You don't know what he thought."
Judging by his comments it seems apparent he was after only the physical aspects. Now before you bend my words and thoughts around I will go on to say that there is nothing wrong with what he is looking for in that sense. The problem in the equation is why he is pursuing her for what he is looking for. That's the big difference since they are after opposite things and there is no mystery in that between what her profile says and his lack of reading it before contacting her.

"When he realized he was in the negative for that, .... Show me a time line."
"he gets bent and acts like a child with a sarcastic comment, .... Show me a time line."
I think the time line of it all was right from the start when it began. What you see is him pressing buttons on first hinting, then wanting to meet. During that time line I see her shifting the focus back on track but he continually doesn't follow her lead. I believe his frustration in not getting what he was after pushed him to sarcastically mention the Match comment.

"What aren't you seeing that the rest of us are seeing here? .... Because the rest of you are wrong. She calls him a "Rude son of a bitch". .....Show me the time line where she thinks he is a rude son of a bitch."
His comment at 2:27 kicked it off.
His two comments at 2:32.
His ( first ) 2:33 comment.
His 2:34 comment.
His 2:36 comment.
And his 2:55 comment.
What more information in a time line do you need to prove that this idiot was a rude son of a bitch to her? So yet again, what aren't you seeing that the rest of us are that considers all of us "wrong" but only you being correct in the matter? He kicked off his rudeness at 2:27. Nothing more needs to be said for where conversation went from that point on. He wanted to be an ass from that point. It wasn't her that was being an ass to him prior to 2:27. So yeah, this is the part you don't seem to be seeing that the rest of us all are.

"It's perplexing how you ignore facts .... Then show me your facts backing what you think."
I just did in every comment prior to this one seen above, as have the other people commenting have also done. You are just too bullheaded to comprehend the facts since your mind is preset in a fixed position on who is right and wrong in the blog and you aren't willing to look at the story from a neutral perspective or comprehend what everyone is telling you. All I gather is that you're either a troll or someone who lacks comprehension.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/25/2018 8:54 pm

    Quoting Banana_Canyon:
    Heathen_G,

    "am not going to write a book over it, Heathen_G. .... Is that bending your words? No."
    You're too blind to see that this response by you is bending my words. "I am not going to write a book over it" doesn't mean anything more than what the comment simply implies. There's no reason to quote this or say "Is that bending your words? No." because you're trying to bend this into meaning something more than what it says and take it to another level. Troll.

    "He became a smart ass on her and he started the rudeness part first, not her. .... Then you show me where he became rude first, in this "Chat". You can do that by noting the time."
    He became rude to her first at the point of bringing up his Match comment.

    "Are you reading the same thing as the rest of us are? ... Yes."
    Then why can't you see that he began rudeness at this point of his Match comment like the rest of us are all seeing and commenting on?

    "Why? Because he didn't read a profile first. ... So what? She didn't read his either."
    The big difference here is that he was pursuing her ( blindly ) for something other than just chatting, while she, on the other hand, could care less of what he was looking for because again, she could already tell ( without clicking in his profile ) that he exceeded her range of required distance by his location. Therefore, there is no need for us women to look at a profile if we already know that someone is excluded from picture in a real-life meet or physical sense by the fact that someone lives too far away to consider it a realistic situation. We don't need to know anymore about a person or try to know someone better if immediately we already know we've reached a dead end from the start ( by his distance ). There's a really big difference between this argument and it's obvious that you're too bullheaded to see the two differences. Again, this is why you cannot agree and see the obvious things that the rest of us here are all disagreeing on you for!

    "If he was here for intent to chat, then why was he pushing the envelope to meet up for a hookup? ....Why not? Anyone can chat and seek a hookup through chatting."
    Please, just stop being either a troll or a bullheaded fool already. Why not, you say? Because he didn't read her fucking profile. If he did so, he'd immediately see that he wasn't local and was looking for something opposite than she was. It's extremely self-explanatory and is exactly the point that we have profiles! There's nothing more to say about this!

    "Why? Because he didn't read a profile first. ... So what? She didn't read his either."
    Same comment as above. She has no reason to read his profile if she's automatically seeing a distance issue with him. On the other hand, he is the one who is going after her, not the other way around. It's his responsibility to then read and understand a profile before getting in contact with someone. And again, this is why nobody agrees with you here on anything because you overlook critical facts.

    "He thought he was game for something that never existed. ... You don't know what he thought."
    Judging by his comments it seems apparent he was after only the physical aspects. Now before you bend my words and thoughts around I will go on to say that there is nothing wrong with what he is looking for in that sense. The problem in the equation is why he is pursuing her for what he is looking for. That's the big difference since they are after opposite things and there is no mystery in that between what her profile says and his lack of reading it before contacting her.

    "When he realized he was in the negative for that, .... Show me a time line."
    "he gets bent and acts like a child with a sarcastic comment, .... Show me a time line."
    I think the time line of it all was right from the start when it began. What you see is him pressing buttons on first hinting, then wanting to meet. During that time line I see her shifting the focus back on track but he continually doesn't follow her lead. I believe his frustration in not getting what he was after pushed him to sarcastically mention the Match comment.

    "What aren't you seeing that the rest of us are seeing here? .... Because the rest of you are wrong. She calls him a "Rude son of a bitch". .....Show me the time line where she thinks he is a rude son of a bitch."
    His comment at 2:27 kicked it off.
    His two comments at 2:32.
    His ( first ) 2:33 comment.
    His 2:34 comment.
    His 2:36 comment.
    And his 2:55 comment.
    What more information in a time line do you need to prove that this idiot was a rude son of a bitch to her? So yet again, what aren't you seeing that the rest of us are that considers all of us "wrong" but only you being correct in the matter? He kicked off his rudeness at 2:27. Nothing more needs to be said for where conversation went from that point on. He wanted to be an ass from that point. It wasn't her that was being an ass to him prior to 2:27. So yeah, this is the part you don't seem to be seeing that the rest of us all are.

    "It's perplexing how you ignore facts .... Then show me your facts backing what you think."
    I just did in every comment prior to this one seen above, as have the other people commenting have also done. You are just too bullheaded to comprehend the facts since your mind is preset in a fixed position on who is right and wrong in the blog and you aren't willing to look at the story from a neutral perspective or comprehend what everyone is telling you. All I gather is that you're either a troll or someone who lacks comprehension.
" He became rude to her first at the point of bringing up his Match comment. ... No he wasn't rude when he said, "You should probably checkout Match..." [@2"27]....

But then she actually became rude first saying , here comes the childish retorts.

At this point Heels should have terminated the conversation, since she was upset by virtually nothing. In fact he even said, "bye" [@2"29].. but she kept on typing.......Heels can not refer to him as being a rude sob without first saying she was very rude first and started an argument


Amoculi 63M
11 posts
6/25/2018 11:26 pm

I wonder why a smart woman like you wastes any time on a dick like this fellow. It isn't so much that all of the men here are dickheads (I notice that is the only thing in his photo - no woman or hint of one, no physical features other than a dickhead). It is just that the dickheads spend all of their time contacting women and being, well, dickheads.

Next time someone asks if they can ask a question and if you will answer it honestly, tell them "no". That will end their game. It reminds me of a woman I knew in college, who was flashed by a guy one evening on her way back from the library. They guy walked up to her and opened his coat to reveal his tallywhacker having out of his pants. He said "Do you know what this is?" "Yes", she said. "It looks like a penis, only smaller." That's the ticket to getting rid of the jerks without wasting a lot of time. Not that you need my advice, of course.


Teddyredrock 50M
3 posts
6/26/2018 8:38 am

@ Amoculi "I wonder why a smart woman like you wastes any time on a dick like this fellow.".....
pretty sure that the im pics show that she is a sweet lady by nature by even answering him and wantin to chat. this might sound crazy to say but her kind nature is her flaw in this time of history. this can be seen all over the web site and not too often do ladies reply or chat at all.

"It is just that the dickheads spend all of their time contacting women and being, well, dickheads".....
because of this we are left with a world of people on this web site that all go around just ignoring and blocking each other and nobody male and female talk to each other or even want to. but wait a sec. isnt the whole idea of this web site to talk to each other or to meet? very ironic. but the dickheads like funcouple1976tt and heathen_g that made it to become this way.


Banana_Canyon 40F  
178 posts
6/26/2018 10:43 am

Heathen_G, you're apparently an idiot!

"He became rude to her first at the point of bringing up his Match comment. ... No he wasn't rude when he said, "You should probably checkout Match..." [@2"27]....
But then she actually became rude first saying , here comes the childish retorts."
Not sure how many times we need to go through this. How is intentional sarcasm ( by his Match comment ) NOT considered to be a rude gesture? This was him kicking off rudeness, not her. This was his retort because he realized he wasn't getting the bj he was after. This is due to his own ignorance of not reading. Has nothing at all to do with her being here to chat, opening up his IM and replying to some question he had. You are an idiot if you cannot see how obvious this debate is.

"At this point Heels should have terminated the conversation, since she was upset by virtually nothing. In fact he even said, "bye" [@2"29].. but she kept on typing.......Heels can not refer to him as being a rude sob without first saying she was very rude first and started an argument"
Not true. It's been established that Heels was here for socializing. She did that. So what's the fucking issue here??? He IM'd her asking a question. She opened the IM and agreed to answer with honesty. She did that. They were socializing. Why should she initiate to terminate an IM if the whole idea was because he wanted to desperately chat to her, which she agreed upon and did? You're a fucking goon! What do you mean "virtually nothing"? He went out of his way to make a Match comment out of rudeness and sarcasm because his ego was shattered when he realized a bj wasn't going to happen. I think Heels was perfect for showing this ass his behavior for everyone to see. It's not "virtually nothing"...it's a big deal because this shit has destroyed this site to the core!

"In fact he even said, "bye" [@2"29].. but she kept on typing...."
Ever come to think that immature and unnecessary rudeness triggers someone to get pissed off? So yes, she was giving him a piece of her mind. He didn't have the balls to stick around, apologize or try to reason with her , so therefore, like a coward he shot off a "K bye". We have to ask ourselves, how genuinely did he want to enthusiastically chat to her in the first place ( for just chat ) if he was so easily driven to run off in a hurry without doing his best to make up, reason with her or keep the conversation going and shift it in to a positive direction? He didn't care about her at all for a person, nor friendship. All he wanted was physical. He realized she didn't want that and is why he acted immature.

"Heels can not refer to him as being a rude sob without first saying she was very rude first and started an argument"
And to reiterate: He began the entire ordeal with his Match comment. Had he not said that, they likely would have continued talking peacefully and yet "firmly", as Heels puts it. And she's right about that, rudeness and firmness aren't the same thing.
The young man bagging groceries puts a can of soup on a loaf of bread, I could say "could you please rebag those groceries and put heavy items on bottom because it's going to squish the bread." - This is being firm.
On the other hand, if I said "What the fuck are you thinking by putting the soup on top of the bread, you ass!" - This is being rude.
Sarcasm = rudeness, so the intent to bring up Match was rude, which he started. I say again WHICH HE STARTED! I say once more so you hear me loud and clear, WHICH HE STARTED!!!!!!!!!! From there it is obvious that she took offense to that comment, got mad and I cannot blame her for giving him an earful. But that's the problem with you goons. You cannot ever understand very simple stuff here. The idea cannot be any more clear and simple as to read a profile first. Understand if you are on the same page and level as someone. And then if so, contact the other person and see where it goes. You don't just randomly contact strangers and have no clue about things. This is where it's backwards from the start. You goons don't see how simple this can be if you just read first...but you don't....and you are premium members. What that boils down to each and every time is just laziness and ignorance. Men want to come here, put zero effort in to anything, but expect a miracle to instantly happen. That's not generally how things work and is not realistic.

As others said about you....clueless! That's exactly right.


doctorfit002 45M
21 posts
6/26/2018 11:42 pm

He is a loser.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
6/27/2018 2:27 am

    Quoting NoTellLover:
    Heathen_G is still a dope. what is all this stupid talk of chemistry? heels didnt want chemistry and she wasnt looking for chemistry with him. you cant see that the only reason she took on his im was to answer a question? you go on this mad rant talking about chemistry like she was after him or had a thing for him or something. nothing like that. all everyone sees is that she took his im to be nice to answer a question and thats all this is about. so dont say that you arent twisting shit around that everybodys tellin you in here cause you are. chemistry? you are twisting things. chemistry has nothing to do with our story in the blog. you are a dope!
Quoting NoTellLover:
Heathen_G don't be a dope. its clear he didnt read a profile. i mean whatever if he just wanted to chat and she was just chatting and made a reply back to his queston. how many women take the time to reply back? she was being nice to him by doing so. it became personal when he was hinting for a blow. this ain't about taking a chance. this is about him being a major dick for not reading and thinking he could get some action that isnt there in the first place. she wants a fwb.


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what is all this stupid talk of chemistry? ... You said she wants a Fwb. I replied , in order to have that, there has to be chemistry.

But that's not the point. The point is, she was rude, and that started this. She cannot call him a rude sob when she , herself started rudeness first.

you are a dope! ..... See, that is an example of "Being rude first", and you've been first to be rude a number of times.


rh1972 45M  
581 posts
6/27/2018 8:09 am

Anyone with a cock pic as their main profile pic is already broadcasting their inferiority...

To be fair though, there are some women who want cock pics - the past two weeks alone I have come across 4 who actually asked for a penis pic! Every single one of them went into the "delete/block" category, because even if they were women, you can just tell by how crude and crass that is that they'd be lousy lays.

His kind of high-pressure sales tactic may work in real estate, but I can't see it working too often in non-sales environments.


Banana_Canyon 40F  
178 posts
6/29/2018 1:11 pm

rh1972, it's highly unlikely that the four "women" you've encountered within the past two weeks were actually women at all if they ALL had to ultimately be deleted/blocked by you because of crude/crass they were. What I highly suspect here is that you were dealing with catfish. Women know what male anatomy looks like and it's very unlikely that many women actually care to ask to see a cock pic, much less four women in a two week period. Bottom line - we really could care less about a cock ( or to see one ) in most circumstances. I think you have the story wrong...probably not "lousy lays", but rather they are't women to begin with ( catfish ).

"Anyone with a cock pic as their main profile pic is already broadcasting their inferiority." - Well, I think there could be many reasons for it. Simply put, men feel the need to post pics of their cocks in the attempt to attract a woman sexually by what he's packin' below the belt ( again, almost none of us women really care about your anatomy pics ). Some men are married or discreet because of careers, family, etc... so I can understand a body pic of some sort as an alternative to face...whether cock, chest or otherwise.

I do think you are right that his sales tactic may work in business and money with haggling and taking risks, but not when much it comes to people looking for compatibility, especially if that person is very specific and went to a great length to describe specifics on a profile.....that means to take the hint, because it's an important factor to her. Otherwise, she'd have no need to describe it at all.


MiniG0lfPr0 46M
20 posts
6/30/2018 10:37 pm

I don't know if I am more appalled by his being rude or his inability to spell asboth were atrocious.


JME6886 49M
8 posts
7/1/2018 12:03 am

some are just rude


myelin36 47F  
3613 posts
7/2/2018 6:31 am

I never understand why men have a need for game playing. This is a sex site and if that was his goal, he should have been more transparent. Personally, if he was fishing for a blowjob, he should have just stated it, not played the "Would you.." game.

Alternatively, when it became apparent where this was going, you should have cut the conversation off rather than kept fueling the flame. Flaming him and posting it on your blog lowers you to his standards even if you felt he was being a dick. JMO.

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Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
7/4/2018 2:11 pm

    Quoting Banana_Canyon:
    rh1972, it's highly unlikely that the four "women" you've encountered within the past two weeks were actually women at all if they ALL had to ultimately be deleted/blocked by you because of crude/crass they were. What I highly suspect here is that you were dealing with catfish. Women know what male anatomy looks like and it's very unlikely that many women actually care to ask to see a cock pic, much less four women in a two week period. Bottom line - we really could care less about a cock ( or to see one ) in most circumstances. I think you have the story wrong...probably not "lousy lays", but rather they are't women to begin with ( catfish ).

    "Anyone with a cock pic as their main profile pic is already broadcasting their inferiority." - Well, I think there could be many reasons for it. Simply put, men feel the need to post pics of their cocks in the attempt to attract a woman sexually by what he's packin' below the belt ( again, almost none of us women really care about your anatomy pics ). Some men are married or discreet because of careers, family, etc... so I can understand a body pic of some sort as an alternative to face...whether cock, chest or otherwise.

    I do think you are right that his sales tactic may work in business and money with haggling and taking risks, but not when much it comes to people looking for compatibility, especially if that person is very specific and went to a great length to describe specifics on a profile.....that means to take the hint, because it's an important factor to her. Otherwise, she'd have no need to describe it at all.
especially if that person is very specific and went to a great length to describe specifics on a profile.....that means to take the hint, .... That doesn't mean he should not take a chance. People write their profiles some time ago.... moods change, desires change... updates are not always made.


Heels_N_Squeals 44F
31 posts
7/5/2018 9:11 am

myelin36 -
"This is a sex site..."

NO IT ISN'T! How many times must we keep saying this here. AdultCR.com Adult Chatroulette is NOT ONLY JUST a sex site. It can be, sure, but we need to stop addressing it as a "sex site". It isn't JUST that. Similarly, we can just as equally describe it as a social media site. Not everybody comes here and looks for sex meets. In fact, most don't and just chat, cam, blog and things like that.

"Personally, if he was fishing for a blowjob, he should have just stated it, not played the "Would you.." game."

I agree with you to some degree but here's the bottom line that I'm trying to get across: There was no need for him to write me at all if he wanted a random nsa bj. So although you are right about his game tactics, to take it a step further, he didn't need to get in touch with me in the first place because if he read my profile then he would have already known the answer.

"Alternatively, when it became apparent where this was going, you should have cut the conversation off rather than kept fueling the flame. Flaming him and posting it on your blog lowers you to his standards even if you felt he was being a dick."

Why should I disengage conversation? After all:
* I was here to chat....and did so.
*He initiated conversation with me.

What you may not realize is that what you are doing when you cut conversation and begin this entire mentality of ignore/block is that you are shaping society. It may not seem it on such a small scale but this is what's now become obvious on the site and in social structure. Go ahead, ask any men here.....how many women reply back to them in email or IM? One guy openly admitted to me that out of him IM'ing about 60 women that I was the first person to open his IM and respond to him. Others claim similar. Why is this? Because we have shaped our society to be ignorant to one another by default. This is no solution. I've gone over this in this blog already. I'm not sure why such confusion and intense drama over something that is completely simple to understand.

1 .) Read a damn profile FIRST!
2 .) Understand what it says at face value and respect it!
3. ) a. ) If you fit the match of what you are looking for by the description of what's on my profile, then write me and we'll chat to see where it goes.
b .) If what you read does NOT correspond to what you are looking for, no need to write to me at all for any reason....unless of course, you honestly just want to chat purely to socialize.

Seriously how hard is this 3-step process to understand??? So come on, this doesn't lower my standards, it ups my standards for being a genuinely honest and nice person for even deciding to open his IM and answer his questions. Those who ignore/block are the idiots who lower the standards here. Get a clue!


Banana_Canyon 40F  
178 posts
7/5/2018 11:29 am

Heathen_G,

"especially if that person is very specific and went to a great length to describe specifics on a profile.....that means to take the hint, .... That doesn't mean he should not take a chance. People write their profiles some time ago.... moods change, desires change... updates are not always made."

As many times as I explain this, you still will never get it. You're dense as a rock!
Let me break this down to you like a kindergartner. If someone goes to a specific length in describing something very specific on their profile, then what do you think that means? Answer: It means that whatever that specific is, it's an important enough for that user to make a note of it. Otherwise, if it wan't a make-or-break factor, then there would not be a need to describe it at all. Why is it that you cannot comprehend such a simple thing?
Example: A female's profile...she makes a specific mention on her profile that she's only seeking black men. Now, if you are a white man, why is there a reason to write to this woman at all? There's not! The profile already lays down the fact that she specifically ONLY seeks black men. If she was open to seeking men of various races, then there would not be any need to describe herself only seeking black men. The same fucking thing applies here with the story in this blog! If someone like Heels specifically says she seeks someone local ( which he is not ) for a fwb ( which he isn't seeking, but rather a nsa bj ), then they aren't on the same page at all......there's no reason for this clown to be contacting her at all for physical action. I love how you just dismiss something so obvious and continually defend this clown.

Read Heels' comment dated on 6 / 23. What aren't you understanding in what she wrote about "taking a chance".
She wrote "There is no "chance to take" because none even exists from the start. He's out of range, therefore, he doesn't fit criteria of what I seek/require. End of discussion."

Still you thrive on describing some mysterious "chance" that was never there at all to begin with. Stop going in circles with the same senseless drama. The guy didn't read. That's the bottom line is this: If he did read profile before contacting her, automatically he would have known that they sought different things, weren't on the same page in what they each sought and overall wouldn't have had to contact her at all. That's it! No more to be said on the issue...no "chances", no "maybe her profile was outdated" ( even though her profile specifically says it's kept up to date ) or "her mood varied"......stop making up imaginary fucking excuses and stick to the facts and topic. He wrote seeking a bj. Nowhere on her profile does anything like that even remotely exist and she went to a specific point to make it very clear about what she is specifically seeking. This means it's of great importance to her and make-or-break factors exist ( specific distance points and specific search for a fwb ), if I actually need to spell this out like a child to you like this.


Teddyredrock 50M
3 posts
7/5/2018 11:08 pm

banana and heels you both got your shit together. agree with all your coments. problem with things today is that people are rude, inconsiderate and dumbed down. now there is 1 smart person for like every 20 or 30 dumb 'average' person. talking to these dipshits and trying to reason with logic, common sense and really basic human things that we shouldn't have to be told or explained to is like trying to communicate with an orangutan or parakeet and expecting positive results of understanding, change and civil behavior to come from it. people are just so stupid and dumbed down that from what I'm reading, a certain few people have to be told like babies about whats wrong. pretty sad that its gotten this bad that those cannot see what is so obviously wrong with funcouples entire im. it is like having an argument with a picket fence with those who keep at the bickering and who make invalid attempts to prove you ladies wrong. i'm not agreeing because you are ladies. i'm agreeing because what you both say always makes perfect sense and you stick to the facts, the story and to basic procedures of protocol we should all be following as members here. then you got this heathen guy who is always acting a fool. anytime you are going off and taking chances or think you can prowl on someones mood and override someones profile info then what you are only doing is going to piss off the woman and turn her off and push her off the site. this isn't a night club where you can do that and you don't know anything about someone. this is a personals site and we have filled out profiles for a reason. if you just ignore reading or overriding profile info then you are only inviting your own self into drama, argument, anger and nothing positive. keep the good fight ladies.


Heathen_G 59M
4744 posts
7/6/2018 5:23 pm

    Quoting Banana_Canyon:
    Heathen_G,

    "especially if that person is very specific and went to a great length to describe specifics on a profile.....that means to take the hint, .... That doesn't mean he should not take a chance. People write their profiles some time ago.... moods change, desires change... updates are not always made."

    As many times as I explain this, you still will never get it. You're dense as a rock!
    Let me break this down to you like a kindergartner. If someone goes to a specific length in describing something very specific on their profile, then what do you think that means? Answer: It means that whatever that specific is, it's an important enough for that user to make a note of it. Otherwise, if it wan't a make-or-break factor, then there would not be a need to describe it at all. Why is it that you cannot comprehend such a simple thing?
    Example: A female's profile...she makes a specific mention on her profile that she's only seeking black men. Now, if you are a white man, why is there a reason to write to this woman at all? There's not! The profile already lays down the fact that she specifically ONLY seeks black men. If she was open to seeking men of various races, then there would not be any need to describe herself only seeking black men. The same fucking thing applies here with the story in this blog! If someone like Heels specifically says she seeks someone local ( which he is not ) for a fwb ( which he isn't seeking, but rather a nsa bj ), then they aren't on the same page at all......there's no reason for this clown to be contacting her at all for physical action. I love how you just dismiss something so obvious and continually defend this clown.

    Read Heels' comment dated on 6 / 23. What aren't you understanding in what she wrote about "taking a chance".
    She wrote "There is no "chance to take" because none even exists from the start. He's out of range, therefore, he doesn't fit criteria of what I seek/require. End of discussion."

    Still you thrive on describing some mysterious "chance" that was never there at all to begin with. Stop going in circles with the same senseless drama. The guy didn't read. That's the bottom line is this: If he did read profile before contacting her, automatically he would have known that they sought different things, weren't on the same page in what they each sought and overall wouldn't have had to contact her at all. That's it! No more to be said on the issue...no "chances", no "maybe her profile was outdated" ( even though her profile specifically says it's kept up to date ) or "her mood varied"......stop making up imaginary fucking excuses and stick to the facts and topic. He wrote seeking a bj. Nowhere on her profile does anything like that even remotely exist and she went to a specific point to make it very clear about what she is specifically seeking. This means it's of great importance to her and make-or-break factors exist ( specific distance points and specific search for a fwb ), if I actually need to spell this out like a child to you like this.
As many times as I explain this, you still will never get it. ... You're trying to tell me , if a man reads a womans profile, and sees she's not into what he wants , he should go away. ........And I'm telling you he is not obligated to go away. If he chooses, he may take a chance.

You're dense as a rock! ... And you're another rude unpleasant woman.

If someone goes to a specific length in describing something very specific on their profile, then what do you think that means? Answer: It means that whatever that specific is, it's an important enough for that user to make a note of it. Otherwise, if it wan't a make-or-break factor, then there would not be a need to describe it at all. Why is it that you cannot comprehend such a simple thing? .....Anyone, man or woman, straight or gay, finds a profile, finds something attractive about someones profile, they may take a chance. .....Now you try to comprehend what "Take a chance" means.

she's only seeking black men. Now, if you are a white man, why is there a reason to write to this woman at all? .... To take a chance she's changed her mind or may feel differently. Do you understand?

The same fucking thing applies here with the story in this blog! .... Yes, and the guy took a chance. He can do that.

there's no reason for this clown ... There's no reason for you to be rude about him either.

to be contacting her at all for physical action. .... He took a chance.

She wrote "There is no "chance to take" because none even exists from the start. He's out of range, therefore, he doesn't fit criteria of what I seek/require. End of discussion." ..... There's always a chance of getting together, and some people don't let distance stop them.

Still you thrive on describing some mysterious "chance" ....That's right. And he took it. He can do that.

The guy didn't read. .... Maybe he did, maybe he did not... but certainly she said she did not read his profile.

If he did read profile before contacting her, automatically he would have known that they sought different things, weren't on the same page in what they each sought and overall wouldn't have had to contact her at all. ...... Unless he felt , contacting her, was worth taking a chance

..no "chances", .... You or anyone else, cannot tell someone they have no chance. If they want to try, then they should try.

..stop making up imaginary fucking excuses and stick to the facts and topic. .... The fact of the topic is he took a chance and she was first to be rude, not him. Then she plasters his name on her blog as being a rude person......when in fact she is the rude person.

He wrote seeking a bj. ... Or he wrote seeking a fantasy about her giving him a blowjob.

Nowhere on her profile does anything like that even remotely exist and she went to a specific point to make it very clear about what she is specifically seeking. .... She sure does... but he took a chance.


Banana_Canyon 40F  
178 posts
7/9/2018 9:28 am

Heathen_G,

Same old song and dance again with you. I feel that you just pick apart my comments, but don't actually sit there, read them through and try to comprehend what I'm saying ( along with the other half dozen of so people who all disagreed with you over the course of this blog ). I suppose every one of us is wrong, but you are right. Comical!

First and foremost, get this whole "chance" nonsense out of your mind. Every comment posted here from you is "chance" mumbo jumbo. If someone has a vague and blank profile then sure, the field seems game to go for chances. Not for someone who specifically says she seeks a specific something. There's nothing more to be said about that. Honestly, there's not.

"As many times as I explain this, you still will never get it. ... You're trying to tell me , if a man reads a womans profile, and sees she's not into what he wants , he should go away. ........And I'm telling you he is not obligated to go away. If he chooses, he may take a chance."

Yes, I'm saying EXACTLY that! That's EXACTLY the idea behind what a profile is designed for. Otherwise, there is no reason for profiles if the idea is to try to override the critical and important details of what a person seeks. We have profiles so that others can read them PRIOR to writing to us and so that they can make a basic determination on whether or not they meet the important key things with each other. If they don't, go away, no need to write to anyone at all if again, say a white woman seeks ONLY a black man....and you are a white man, for example. There is just no reason for that white man to contact her. None at all. That means move on. That means that there is no chance because that woman is describing to you a specif of her importance. Writing to that woman means you are a fucking ignorant loser and in turn all that you are doing is going to agitate that woman and drive her off of the site, as men constantly do to all of the women here by this "take a chance" mentality in others who seek totally different things.
Taking a chance means that if you are in a local bar and see a woman sitting alone at the bar, you approach her, have a seat next to her, ask maybe to buy her a drink and if she'd like to chat...( and in your mind see where that may go ). That's taking a chance! However, if that woman sitting at the bar were to have a paper sign hung from the back of her shirt saying "men, leave me alone, I'm not interested in any of you and I'm gay" then the message is perfectly clear and primed that she doesn't want male company, would only ever be interested in other women and that there is no "chance" that exists for you as a man to even approach her at all in terms of trying to hook up. Socializing may be a different thing. The analogy is precisely the same here on the site. If someone has a vague or blank profile, sure, take the "chance", but if someone specifically seeks apples and you seek oranges, then no chance even exists. This is so easy to understand, so why can't you understand it? Because you are steadfast to the idea that some magical "chances" exist when they don't. You think that by people contacting women in whom they meet no criteria is a good idea...it isn't. It pisses women off, turns us off and drives us away. That's ALL it does! You aren't listening to us women speaking here. That's the problem with you and many of the ignorant men here on the site. I'm TELLING you this stuff as fact, this is not just my opinion. Look around you. Hardly no women are here or want to be on this site. We have to ask ourselves why. I'm telling you the reasons why, yet you ignore me and keep steadfast to the idea that being persistent in pursuing others in some fictional "chances" when people meet no criteria is the way to go. It isn't! It pisses woman off. It turns us off! It drives us off this site! Looking at all the female comments left on this blog alone, the message being sent to you is unanimous. Get a clue, will you!!
And you're absolutely right, this guy isn't "obligated to go away". Looking at his membership status, he's a paying gold member and has that right to contact pothers. So sure, just because he can contact someone doesn't mean that he should or that it's a good idea. Again, what he's really doing is shaping society by doing this. He's pushing women away. He's turning women off, making them leave the site and making them not want to return ever again. Women will talk and spread the word of how shitty this site is or a specific user(s) is/are, just as what this very blog is proving to do. More and more women leave the site. Less and less women join. More and more desperate men join. More and more competition exists. The more and more competition, the more stress, frustration and anger will exist.
You don't see it this way, but this is precisely what is going on! And why? Just because goofy men come here and annoy women with irrelevant nonsense instead of simply reading a profile, understanding that there is no realistic chance and moving on without contact. That's it! Had this guy actually fucking read, he would have known that she sought someone who lived local. That fact in itself with distance is automatically a dealbreaker. No need to initiate contact with her. It's not that it's a "into what she wants" thing, she's literally saying and telling the audience "hey, if you aren't local, then bye-bye". This has nothing at all to do with "chance". It has everything to do with being an ignorant good who is playing a part in destroying this site! So YES, if you don't meet profile criteria, he should move on. It's just that simple.

"You're dense as a rock! ... And you're another rude unpleasant woman."

No, I'm not at all rude and unpleasant. I'm being honest about that. If I personally spent almost a month here discussing the same facts to you over and over again and you continually repeat the same "take a chance" nonsense in return, you are dense. You aren't listening at all to what I end every other person on this blog has been telling you over the course of this last month. It's only you that continues to debate and defend this funcouple asswipe! It's so obviously clear to everyone else that he's the one in the wrong, not Heels.

"If someone goes to a specific length in describing something very specific on their profile, then what do you think that means? Answer: It means that whatever that specific is, it's an important enough for that user to make a note of it. Otherwise, if it wan't a make-or-break factor, then there would not be a need to describe it at all. Why is it that you cannot comprehend such a simple thing? .....Anyone, man or woman, straight or gay, finds a profile, finds something attractive about someones profile, they may take a chance. .....Now you try to comprehend what "Take a chance" means."

Again, you're dense. This isn't rude, it's me being honest. You're talking about attraction here. This blog has nothing to do with attraction. Heels' profile says this, and I quote "please live local within no more that 30-40 minutes from me". Now, looking at her location of Bailey, CO and then looking at funcouple's profile location of Denver, CO I was able to easily understand where they both live. From there I simply punched in the locations on an online map. The result yielded a 47 mile distance between the two which is roughly 1 hour 22 minutes that separate the two. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a distance of 1 hour 22 minutes is not within here required 30-40 minute frame of distance of what she seeks. All else aside, this is an automatic dealbreaker. Period! There is no reason to discuss attraction, taking chances, etc... as it is not of any relevancy at all. You go on this massive ranting debate over all sorts of deep issues that don't pertain to the story here, but overlook the most basic and simple details. Not within range of requirement...move on. Like seriously, this is kindergarten stuff. There's no need to read an entire cookbook or go to culinary school if all that someone wants to do is fry an egg. You get so deeply involved in nonsense talk, and all the while you overlook something as simple as distance in what's the dealbreaker here. And this is exactly why I call you dense. It's not being rude, it's because you can't see your hand in front of your face. Seriously, is this genius level stuff here? Do I have to honestly sit here and tell you that if someone requires a 30-40 minute range of required distance, that someone who lives 2-3 times that distance is NOT going to meet that requirement? Give me a flippin' break! Geesh...!

"she's only seeking black men. Now, if you are a white man, why is there a reason to write to this woman at all? .... To take a chance she's changed her mind or may feel differently. Do you understand?"

Absolutely wrong! And no, I do NOT understand what the hell you are talking about. And here's why...Heels' profile specifically says, and I again quote "Hi, thank you for taking a few minutes to read my profile I am going to keep this short, direct, up to date at all times and to the point."
Do you see where your argument falls through yet by what she has written? Let me hold your hand and walk you through it like a child....she said "I am going to keep this profile up to date at all times". Yet here is what you say "To take a chance she's changed her mind or may feel differently. Do you understand?". So what is it here that you don't fucking understand yet? If her profile is kept up to date at all times, then that means if she changed her mind in any way regarding her search criteria, then that would be reflected on her profile and kept up to date immediately. It's sad that I have to baby you this way when things are so obviously black and white.

"The same fucking thing applies here with the story in this blog! .... Yes, and the guy took a chance. He can do that."

Again, no chance existed. Sure, he took the chance, but where does that mentality get us? It gets women AND men pissed off, it turn us women off and it pushes us off the site. We have all heard the term 'just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean that you should'. That applies here and ignorance is the enemy to these things.

"there's no reason for this clown ... There's no reason for you to be rude about him either."

Yes, there is a reason....he is a clown. He bypasses and overrides people's profile criteria. This shapes society negatively, whether you realize it or not. So the next time you write to 50 women, get 49 of them ignoring/blocking you and get only a single and vague "hi" in return from one of them....you can sit here and thank us women for telling you what the fucking problem here is with you men that you all seem to ignore and overlook. If you don't read profiles, you're a clown! If you do read profiles, but then override and bypass what that person is telling you in the profile, you're a fucking clown! This isn't being rude, I'm being honest. We have profiles for a reason. Use them! Period!

"to be contacting her at all for physical action. .... He took a chance."

No chance existed by distance alone. He would have known that if he had either read her profile or comprehended the criteria. This makes him a clown either way. You defend someone who, in either circumstance, was in the wrong for either not reading OR reading and blatantly bypassing/overriding someone description.

"She wrote "There is no "chance to take" because none even exists from the start. He's out of range, therefore, he doesn't fit criteria of what I seek/require. End of discussion." ..... There's always a chance of getting together, and some people don't let distance stop them. "

Yes, if someone doesn't describe that on a profile. However, if someone specifically goes to the length to describe a 30-40 minute range and you live 1 hour 22 minutes away, then get a fucking clue! It means that he's out of range directly from the start and is automatically not fitting criteria by the fact of just distance alone. You're as goofy as funcouple if I have to explain something this fucking simple to you like a five year-old.

"Still you thrive on describing some mysterious "chance" ....That's right. And he took it. He can do that."

And as I said, it's a horrible idea to bypass/override someone's specific criteria if you know in advance that it's not syncing. It turns women off and drives them away. Nothing positive comes from friction unless you seek resistance, anger and frustration. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. It's not "taking a chance" if someone fucking says she seeks a FWB ( not an NSA ) and requires 30-40 minute maximum range of distance ( not 1 hour 22 minutes ). Clown!

"The guy didn't read. .... Maybe he did, maybe he did not... but certainly she said she did not read his profile."

Scenario # 1 - Say he didn't read it. Then that makes him a clown for ignoring her profile as a gold member and for not knowing what she sought PRIOR to writing to her.
Scenario # 2 - Say he did read her profile. Then that makes him a clown for bypassing and overriding what she specifically had written. If you know up front that what someone seeks doesn't match what you yourself is seeking, then bye-bye. There's no need to write to someone.

So either way, he's a clown whether he DID or DID NOT read it.

Right, she didn't read his profile. She had no need to. Are you that blind to see the two differences here? Again, take my hand sonny and allow me to walk you through this like a baby.

Him - He was the one pursuing her. By that fact, he was the one who should have read her profile before making contact with her. Anyone that is the one who pursues automatically should be the person who reads a profile before contact. Period!

Her - She was NOT pursuing him at all. She was merely on the site chatting. She had no reason or care to read his profile. Again, she could tell instantly without having to read his profile that by his location of Denver, CO that he was way too far out of range of distance. Again, why the need to read a cookbook cover to cover when the lesson of how to fry an egg is on page one? Her answer of a dealbreaker was known by his distance within his IM box alone. No need or care for her to then read his profile because nothing is at all relevant if from the very start you already know you are way too far. Again, clown mentality!!!!

"If he did read profile before contacting her, automatically he would have known that they sought different things, weren't on the same page in what they each sought and overall wouldn't have had to contact her at all. ...... Unless he felt , contacting her, was worth taking a chance"

There is no "unless" about it. Distance-wise, he was already off the charts, much less in any terms compatibility-wise. Had he either read OR comprehended her profile criteria regarding distance factor alone, instantly would he have known that no chance even existed for what she seeks. No reason to beat the dead horse over going in endless circles of this fictional "chance" nonsense. Again., profiles exist for a reason, that's why we utilize them and mean what we say in them. Otherwise, we have no reason to write out specifics in profiles if they are to be overridden. It's different if people come here and say "open to possibilities" or have a vague or blank profile....then the doors are wide open for chances, but not when someone specifically writes detailed things. When they do this, it means it's an important set of rules and requirements for that person...otherwise, no need to describe them at all.

".no "chances", .... You or anyone else, cannot tell someone they have no chance. If they want to try, then they should try."

And again, when you override profile criteria, what you do is shape society, piss women off, turn women off and drive them away from this site for good. Nothing positive evolves from not listening to what women are TELLING you! Take my word on that first handedly. I ceased my very own search here months ago because I have had it with the way that nobody reads profiles and how others seem to just not give a damn at all about what my profile says. Then I would have to guide people, re-explain my entire details, babysit, etc... . I'm TELLING you...this turns women off and drives them off the site! You hear me speaking but you refuse to listen or comprehend what I am TELLING you. If you know you don't fit criteria, don't be pushy and try for anything that goes against the grain of profile criteria. That only pisses us off and results in frustration, anger, arguments, childish retaliation, etc... . Nothing positive comes from overriding women's profiles. Nobody likes pressure in a pushy person at all!

"..stop making up imaginary fucking excuses and stick to the facts and topic. .... The fact of the topic is he took a chance and she was first to be rude, not him. Then she plasters his name on her blog as being a rude person......when in fact she is the rude person."

Wrong! The fact of the topic is that this clown either didn't read a profile or overrode the criteria. This isn't taking a chance, this is being rude and ignorant to observe the facts that you should already either KNOW and/or RESPECT prior to making contact with her. He didn't acquire one or both of those things. And this blog is the direct result of what happens when asswipes like him either don't read profiles OR ignore what the criteria says. This blog is exactly what he deserved! You don't mix apple ingredients into a pan and expect the ending result to be a cherry pie. He received exactly what his recipe called for. You want to be ignorant and rude, then the recipe calls for it to be exposed on the blog. Simple! When you don't read or want to be pushy and override profile criteria and then childishly make a smartass remark to someone, then you get exactly what the fuck you deserved here! He's rude, not she. Get the story correct, clown!

"He wrote seeking a bj. ... Or he wrote seeking a fantasy about her giving him a blowjob."

Which again, is perfectly fine. Listen to what you are quoting here...comprehend what's being said. He wrote "seeking a fantasy about her giving him a blowjob". See the difference here yet? They are socializing, talking about something NOT realistic ( being it's fantasy ) and is borderline cyber. In the story, she's merely answering his question that he had. She's not engaging in conversation with him to get together. There's a huge difference there between that. Again, she can tell instantly that he's living in Denver. What they are discussing from the very start in their chat isn't based at all on anything realistic or that could be realistic. What he is asking is purely a fictional and fantasy-based question. She is socializing and answers him honestly, as he requested. That's all there is to it.

"Nowhere on her profile does anything like that even remotely exist and she went to a specific point to make it very clear about what she is specifically seeking. .... She sure does... but he took a chance."

"She sure does"...

Where on her profile does it say that she "takes chances"? - It doesn't!

Where on her profile does it say that her mood can vary and that it may be hit or miss that she's take an offer on a whim? - It doesn't!

Where on her profile does it say that her profile may be outdated or gives the impression that it may be outdated? - It doesn't! It specifically says that it's kept up to date at all times!

If any of these were true, then yes, perhaps then a "chance to take" might have existed, but not when none of this stuff exists! How do you deny absolute factual evidence? You say "She sure does"....then where the fuck on her profile are you reading this information? Nowhere does it say anything remotely close to any of these things.

You are such a clown! You get on these deep rants consisting of nonsense, when you cannot even recognize the very basics of what's wrong with the picture. You look way too deep into the story and don't see what's at the surface. You don't have to travel to Mars to find ice when all that you have to do is open your refrigerator door. You are so blind to see things at the surface that everyone here is pointing out to you, yet you get so deeply involved in the story as if there was more to it...there wasn't. You lose complete scope of what this entire blog consists of. You continually go on to describe things of "chemistry", "attraction" and "taking chances". The very point being, none of this shit has ever been relevant to the story at all. This story is simply about someone writing to someone else who had a question, that person answering his question honestly and then becoming an ass by making a smartass comment once he realizes that he's been ignorant/couldn't follow protocol and isn't getting a bj from her once she makes it clear that he's writing to the wrong person for that. So instead of thanking her for her time and answering a question or peacefully departing, he feels the need to retort and send off a very clear sarcastic note out of spite which is nothing more than basically like saying "fuck you" to her when he mentioned the Match comment. How you fail to see what I and every other person on this blog has/is telling you is beyond boggling. I love how you are the only single person here who sees Funcouple as being right and Heels as being wrong. Doesn't that fact alone clue you in....like ummm, maybe everyone here can't all be wrong?


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